Posted on 09/01/2009 10:09:12 PM PDT by GoldStandard
Sometimes, 18 kids is simply not enough, so Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar of Tonitown, Ark., are expecting a new addition to their household this spring.
That's right, at that point they will have five more children than Nadya "Octomom" Suleman and 11 more children than Jon and Kate Gosselin. Wow.
"We are so thrilled," says Michelle, 42. "We just can't believe it is happening."
You can't, Michelle? Not after the previous 18 times you were pregnant?
Her husband, Jim Bob Duggar, 44, agrees: "I never gets old. We are so grateful for each child. We look forward to our first grand baby and 19th child."
Their first grandchild is due soon, as their oldest son Joshua, 21, is apparently getting a fast start in joining the family profession of making humans.
He and his wife are expecting a daughter next month, who will be older than her new aunt or uncle: "I think it is going to be awesome," Josh said.
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I know, we live in an anti-children society. We know better than all the generations that came before us. Have you ever complained about a couple that had no children? No, that would be rude.
See #118
Yes, he is a good father and a good husband. You don’t know them. They are fantastic people who care dearly for their children and one another.
Well, of course she could, but that would hardly be in line with their beliefs that the husband is the head of the household.
The idea may seem antique, but it is biblical. When the Bible tells us to love someone, it means to think of their own good above our own. God commands husbands to love their wives - to care for them as they would their own bodies. It is a very tender, kind, and considerate way to behave towards someone.
Maybe it seems antique, because I am an antique myself. ;-)
My grandfather was a great man! This filthy attack against my family is something that I will not forget.
They live debt-free in a 7,000 square foot house.
So then she would be as sinful as you have judged her husband to be, oh Almighty Judge!
Part of caring for someone is to look after their best interests. It cannot be denied that this woman’s health is at great risk. What they do is their business, but it seems an odd way to look after his wife’s well-being.
I was not intending to attack anyone. Merely expressing an opinion, which is what FR is for. I sincerely apologize for any offense.
Wow, I thought FR was a forum for free expression. I was merely expressing an opinion, as everyone else here has done. It is not my place to judge anyone. Only God knows a person’s heart and true intent.
Your apology is accepted but you need to remember that if you attack someone as being sinful because of certain characteristics (in this case having a large family) then everyone who knows someone who fits that characteristic will consider that you are attacking them. Sometimes that is the intention, but if it isn’t, it should make you more cautious.
When the libs get though with healthcare they will put a stop to that. 'gay's that is fine.'
I will take your advice seriously. One of my (many) failings is that I often express my opinion when I ought to keep silent, and in a way that can sound harsh.
I do not think there is anything wrong with large families. I do believe that there are limits to what is possible and prudent in this world, however.
Thank you for accepting my apology.
Freegards,
pining
i knew a family that had 17 kids. even though they were Catholic, the doctor told her that she had to stop after 17. her uterus was at risk of prolapsing. she had to have her uterus removed.
for all the ladies that have had kids, you know what i’m talking about (i had four), i have to cross my legs when i sneeze (weakened muscles from pregnancy)
mrs. duggar must be in good health otherwise i’m sure that neither of them would risk her life.
Damn, how many pictures of them are you gonna post?
The chances of Downs Syndrome increase as the mother ages into her 40's but are still only one or two percent at most.
I don't think these parents are focused on "will a child RESENT me". These parents are focused on what they feel Gods will is. And to raise EACH of their children to the best of their ability.
Parenting is leading.
Leading ain't sticking your finger in the wind to see which direction the wind is blowing, and following the wind.
And parenting isn't worrying about a childs resentment, when they do everything in their power to do things right.
With 18 or 19 brothers and sisters, they don't have much time for resentment. They learn REAL quick what life is REALLY about. And it ain't all about them.
The resentment you speak of, is of a child who EXPECTS things in life, and when not given to them, then they resent it.
I think there is close to a 100% chance of resentment from the child who is 1 of 3 or 4, whose mother is single, and spreads her legs for every guy that comes around, and sees her kids as little more than welfare payments.
These kids might have to SHARE their time more with mom and dad, but these kids KNOW mom and dad, and their siblings love them. Whats there to resent with that?
Read Mark Steyn's America Alone. . .it is about the damning threat of demographicc; stats; sad to say; that do NOT speak well to the future of Western Civilization. Anyway; after reading this; you will want to hug every pregnant woman; and you will be wanting every child; to have many brothers and sisters!
As Mark reminds us; while placing in 'larger context', the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. He reminds us why 'Go Forth and Multiply' is a civilization's first line of defense for survival. (There is only one demographic that is multiplying itself into the future. . .(Islamic); we may never 'catch up'; but we do need and had better be; competitive!)
Of course; it takes a bit of prosperity and or independence to raise any size family/ Think Obama Economics and 'Reform' will insure and reassure all the Lefties; that 'they' will be safe from the threat of population competition.
Bigger question is 'how long safe' given birth statistics at work.
You have accepted the anti-life ideology so common in the US today. There is another way of thought, Christian, prolife, that I suspect the Duggars subscribe to.
“You and your mom were lucky to beat the odds. Good for you both.”
The odds are strongly on the side of having a normal child. The closest they come toward having a downs baby is 1/32 at about 46.
I found this,
Pregnancy After Age 35, Does the Risk Birth Defects Increase?
The risk of giving birth to a child with a birth defect does increase as the mother's age increases. This is probably due to abnormal division of the egg, called nondisjunction. This leads to unequal chromosomes at the end of division. The traditional age at which a woman is considered to be at high risk for chromosomal abnormalities is 35. Approximately 1 in 1,400 babies born from women in their 20's have Down syndrome; it increases to about 1 in 100 babies born with Down syndrome from women in their 40s.
http://www.webmd.com/baby/guide/pregnancy-after-35
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