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Study: Houston leads in births under age 15
Houston Chronicle ^ | 8.31.09 | TODD ACKERMAN

Posted on 08/31/2009 9:40:59 PM PDT by trumandogz

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To: trumandogz

Why is that? Are you saying no one who is 13 or 14 can be illegal?


41 posted on 09/01/2009 12:13:57 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have m ercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee
Why is that? Are you saying no one who is 13 or 14 can be illegal?

Please re-read what I wrote:

"If they are only 13 or 14 years old, it is likely that they were born in the US and are US citizens."

Now, to further explain.

The great majority of illegal immigrants are adult males. Of course there are also adult females but not as many as there are males.

And while there are some children who are illegal aliens, the vast majority of Hispanic children in the US were born here and are US citizens.

42 posted on 09/01/2009 12:31:42 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Global2010

Well yeah, would you like to guess what the average age of a woman was for first marriage in the 19th century in America?


43 posted on 09/01/2009 12:38:48 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: trumandogz; Travis McGee; dixiechick2000; puroresu; Squantos

What is your point here TD?

usually you are very PC on race and ethnicity especially if it has to do with blacks

we all know what the stats are on illegitimacy or we wouldn’t be on this forum..

blacks first by a mile

hispanics second

many Asians third..yep, we always think they are better than the evil Satan cracker

whites fourth...

Japanese, Church of Christ and Seventh Day Adventist Whites and Orthodox Jews last

*Amish...I’m giving them a break on this one

** yes...latinos do abort less..give Il Papa credit for this one

*** you’re picking on hispanics on this one I figure...inaccurately TD since the bigger problem (marginally) in Houston is black illegitimacy I’d reckon since their illegitimacy rates are 40 to 55% higher than latinos and they are about equal numbers percentage wise of the population in Houston

Blacks 70-80 % depending on whose study..39% for Negroid immigrants...hmmm...that sez something eh?...can we exchange Detroit inside 8 mile for The Gambians?

Latinos 50% natives, 40% for immigrants...surprise freepers!

Whites 25% natives, 12% cracker immigrants...only one illegtimate baby in my extended family of 150 and it happened at Tulane...care to guess the race of the non daddy who’s now in prison..again?

Asians 30% natives, 11% Asian immigrants...hmmm\

indeed illegitimacy and it’s evil twin thug kulture are the two biggest enemies in our culture today aside from abandoning God...which sorta goes hand in hand

http://www.cis.org/articles/2007/back507.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston#Demographics


44 posted on 09/01/2009 12:44:11 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: ansel12

i don’t think it was as early as we think though in my mom’s piney woods family it was mid teens


45 posted on 09/01/2009 12:45:11 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: This_far
Education, Yes, perhaps also 'consequences' before and after? Are we as a society being too lenient in providing for those that don't care how their consequences affect others?

Yes. We are in a post-industrial society and in order for such a society to prosper, the people need to be educated. And when the adults of certain cultures do not value the importance of education, we must help their children realize the value of education.

If not, that cycle of illiteracy and poverty will not simply continue but it will grow at an exponential rate.

46 posted on 09/01/2009 12:49:28 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: wardaddy

Read the rest of my posts on this thread,

It is all about education.

As for illegitimacy, we need to realize that Abstinence Education does not work with all groups, especially the poor, white, black and Hispanic who come from families that lack education.

In other words, if mom and dad are not going to teach them to keep in zipped or at least slap on a raincoat if you must have sex, then we have to step in and be the responsible parent.


47 posted on 09/01/2009 12:56:13 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Study: Houston leads in births under age 15

But, aren't ALL births under age 15???

(Looks like the Chron fired all their best headline-writers)

48 posted on 09/01/2009 1:13:28 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: wardaddy
I don't want to do it tonight but I got into this heavy back on the FLDS threads where everyone was convinced that it used to be 14 or so, but actually it was about 23, the numbers actually plummeted in post WWII America.

It is a lot different than people's perceptions, we all have relatives or a past family member that was 14 or 15 but it definitely was not the norm. Not in Europe either.

This is just a quick hint to show you that if needed the information is there and what it says, although this covers the 18th century it lets you know that the past is a little different than we think, I can put together my old sources if needed.

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49 posted on 09/01/2009 1:17:37 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: trumandogz

Those that currently ‘procreate’ without regard for themselves, their offspring or those in society, may need more than education (literary)(they need social, family education/interaction)

They probably need a sense of self or importance/worth. Perhaps, they recreate to achieve same? Or, they believe they will give to their offspring what they were denied?

Perhaps it’s just a continuation of their upbringing.

Again, I will add, the need for consequences. If one person male/female, knows of another having a child and being provided for, what is in place to prevent them from doing the same?

(appreciate your time and thoughts concerning this)


50 posted on 09/01/2009 1:18:26 AM PDT by This_far
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To: wardaddy; trumandogz
What is your point here TD?

As usual TD is defending the rights of the illegals, IMO.

I, too, would like to know the perspective of TD's posting history on illegals.

51 posted on 09/01/2009 4:39:19 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: dfwgator

My question exactly!


52 posted on 09/01/2009 4:52:54 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Is Van Jones a Marxist? Yes or no?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes, and the House Obamacare bill provided for public health clinics in public schools run by private agencies, um, such as Planned Parenthood!


53 posted on 09/01/2009 4:55:37 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Is Van Jones a Marxist? Yes or no?)
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To: trumandogz
Video of people illegally walking across our border.
54 posted on 09/01/2009 4:58:27 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Is Van Jones a Marxist? Yes or no?)
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To: ansel12

that was my point as well...I used to think it was lower too till I saw those studies....


55 posted on 09/01/2009 8:09:16 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: trumandogz

“Manlove said Texas’ high teen birth rates are particularly driven by the state’s large population of Hispanics, in whom teenage motherhood is more culturally accepted than it is in other ethnicities.”

They also might mention that a tradition amongst these folks is that a girl “comes of age” at 15.

Native Texan hispanics temper that tradition with intelligence. Illegal aliens do not.


56 posted on 09/01/2009 8:11:40 AM PDT by jimt
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To: trumandogz

well at leaszt you recognize illegitmacy ...quite a few youngsters now consider that a bigoted term as well..even here.

i have been admonished on FR for using that term...me admonished?...hard to fathom huh?


57 posted on 09/01/2009 8:12:57 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
I believe that the rate of illegitimacy is actually higher in Sweden, but that is only because of the fact that many Swedish couples "play house"/cohabitate without getting married.

The Brazillians solved this problem a few years back by granting marital status to anyone who cohabited for more than two years. In other words, if you are shacking up with a woman in Brazil, you better break it off before then unless you want to be considered a "husband" by the state.

58 posted on 09/01/2009 9:33:16 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Global2010

People need Christ in their hearts to resist the temptations out there. Today it is tougher than ever to resist with so much pulling you in the opposite direction.


59 posted on 09/01/2009 9:37:50 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Clemenza

yep...men are now second class citizens in Sweden...very little marriage

they will go back to living in pit houses soon enough

in Brasil till around 10 years ago it was not a crime to kill yer wife for cheating

ah the good old days


60 posted on 09/01/2009 9:38:00 AM PDT by wardaddy
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