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Patriotism or prejudice? Teen suspended for criticizing Muslim student
ABCActionNews ^ | 8/31/09 | Elizabeth Dinh

Posted on 08/31/2009 10:32:39 AM PDT by Sammy67

SPRING HILL, FL -- While showing off her JROTC uniform, 16-year-old Heather Lawrence told us joining the Army is her next big goal, to follow in the footsteps of her father and grandfather.

"Our flag represents everything that our country is," she said.

The teen says an issue over the American flag is why she was written up and handed a five-day suspension from Springstead High School this week for criticizing a Muslim student. Heather says the other girl was sitting down during the Pledge of Allegiance.

"You know, I made a not-so-kind remark, and I do sincerely apologize for referring to the thing on her head because that had nothing to do with it." Heather told us, "But I told her, 'Why don't she act like she's proud to be an American?'"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 08/31/2009 10:32:40 AM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

God help us all.


2 posted on 08/31/2009 10:34:24 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Sammy67
'Why don't she act like she's proud to be an American?'"

Is this how we teach our students to talk these days?

3 posted on 08/31/2009 10:34:44 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: Republic of Texas

I see a MAJOR Civil Rights lawsuit.


4 posted on 08/31/2009 10:35:34 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Sammy67

Because of Teddy’s immigration fiasco, we deal with issues not imagined by our grandparents.

Go back to the f-ing desert if it’s so great there, maggot.


5 posted on 08/31/2009 10:36:39 AM PDT by wac3rd (80 Carter/Obama 08)
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To: Ben Mugged

Unfortunately, WE’RE not doing the teaching and they aren’t OUR students.


6 posted on 08/31/2009 10:37:21 AM PDT by HIDEK6 (T.")
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To: Ben Mugged

Yea, that question is just so vile....Sarc/

This girl is a true patriot.


7 posted on 08/31/2009 10:37:27 AM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: Sammy67
"But I told her, 'Why don't she act like she's proud to be an American?'"

The raghead, if anything, is proud to be among the hordes whose goal is to destroy America.

8 posted on 08/31/2009 10:38:11 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Sammy67
In response to the question of why another student wasn't acting like an American the school administrators decided they'd do that and began acting like Nazis.

Really good lesson school administrators. Come the reolution you will be remembered.

9 posted on 08/31/2009 10:38:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sammy67
Social pressure was once a great motivator to conform to group norms and standards.

All the great waves of European immigrants faced this pressure, and guess what, it worked. The grandson of Luigi the Dago is now Steve Dago, Systems Analyst at Cisco, not some backwards canoli-eating drunk who speaks only Genoese and a little pidgin English. Maybe because those folks WANTED to become Americans. This current crop HATES America.

SO I say harrass the muslims mercilessly until they conform. It was good enough for my ancestors, and it's good ennough for them.

10 posted on 08/31/2009 10:38:46 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Sammy67

Sometime the place is just Floriduh..


11 posted on 08/31/2009 10:40:25 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Sammy67

Muslims using our idiot liberialism to destroy us one incident at a time..


12 posted on 08/31/2009 10:41:16 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Ben Mugged

She probably said, “Why don’t you act like you’re proud to be an American?” Obviously, most Muslims detest America. They are here to make it a Muslim nation. That is treason. They should all be sent back to the desert. Maybe it is going to take our young people to see what is going on.


13 posted on 08/31/2009 10:42:38 AM PDT by charlie72
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To: Sammy67
and I do sincerely apologize for referring to the thing on her head because that had nothing to do with it.

Now here in Washington state, my son on the school bus listened for many weeks to a bully telling him he was going to do all kinds of things to my son, such as cut his stomach open, among other numerous physical threats.

My son, just having made Eagle and also a wrestler in excellent physical shape, simply kept telling the kid, "Good luck with that".

So how this girl was nailed for bullying is beyond me.

It's gotta be the muslims are above criticism thing currently running in this country.

BTW, my son is brown, being adopted from the Republic of Georgia, and the kid who was harrassing him was white.

The kid ended up in Juvie after breaking the jaw of a much younger and smaller boy by hitting him.
I sure hope this kid is not on the same bus this fall.

14 posted on 08/31/2009 10:48:20 AM PDT by MarMema (Chains we can believe in)
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To: I Buried My Guns

I think many of these watered down emphasis on being an American attitude is fostered by the greatest traitor to American sovereignty known as corporate America in their efforts to create a global workforce and economic/social order. They want Americans to be morally numb or unconcious to foreign atrocities and anti Americanism in order to work amongst them to make money for corporate front office. If you don’t believe me, look at what is taught in every prominent US business and political schools. Wave an American flag and the prof will kick your butt and chew you out. September 2008 finanical meltdown has already proven that in addition to big government, big corporations are also the enemy to Main Street America. Their lobbyists have brought our politicians in areas of illegal immigration, abuse of H-1/H-2 visas, off shoring good jobs creating unemployment and underpaid work force, and all these social costs are dumped on the US taxpayers; same lobbyists advocate government healthcare behind the scene so corporations can dump their workers on guess who, the US taxpayers; many corporations are for cap and trade, especially the Wall Street ones; guess where all the bailout money went?????? At the rate things are going, America is heading for a French revolution.


15 posted on 08/31/2009 10:49:11 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Sammy67

‘Council President Ahmed Bedier’

Nah...could’nt be that Ahmed is a...


16 posted on 08/31/2009 11:03:58 AM PDT by Leg Olam (Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Sammy67

Not too sure about this but don’t the Jehovah Witnesses refuse to salute the flag too? Just asking ...... what if it was a JW instead of a Muslim ... would she have been suspended over the same issue?


17 posted on 08/31/2009 11:14:49 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sammy67

these people want to live here for the freedoms we have but they do not want to stand and pledge the flag...at least show some respect and stand in silence....this country is doomed...


18 posted on 08/31/2009 11:18:41 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: wac3rd
Go back to the f-ing desert if it’s so great there, maggot.

Ok… Let’s get a grip here, people. Two wrongs do not make a right.

First, you should have, by now, figured out that rarely does a newspaper story tell all of the facts. Therefore, as Barrack Obama should be able to tell you, it is best to reserve judgment until you, in deed, do know all of the facts… unless you like having your foot in your mouth and want to be inviting everyone over for a beer… I’ll have a Coors, thanks.

Second, if you read the entire story you will have noticed that the Muslim girl denied not standing for the pledge. Perhaps she wasn’t going to do so until the other girl said something, or maybe, like a lot of teenagers, she resents authority and was showing her “rebelliousness” by getting up in her own time… well after everyone else.

Admittedly, such behavior, if that is what it was, is rude. However, such public rudeness is seldom properly addressed by the additional public rudeness of someone else who may have disagreed with the first display of rudeness. An after-school complaint to a school authority, or, perhaps, a quite, after-the-fact discussion in a private setting with the alleged perpetrator of the first display of rudeness would probably have been far more effective in altering future behavior and likely had no adverse consequences to young lady whom the school officials disciplined.

Based only on the article (which as noted earlier is, very likely, factually incomplete at best, and possibly slanted), it appears the school authorities over reacted in terms of sanctions. The punished girl’s father is probably correct in requesting a reduction. However, school authorities cannot ignore the incident if there is to be a continued expectation of student civility and non-violence with any semblance of a learning atmosphere.

Finally, this country is about individual liberty. That includes the liberty to be non-violently rude and disrespectful as a part of the First and Fourteenth Amendments. (Do not think that I am approving of either behavior alleged to have been displayed.) The first student had the “right” to disrespectfully remain seated during the pledge just as the other student had the right to non-disruptively and rudely express her disapprove in a peaceful manner. The question becomes whether the exercise of either of these individuals’ rights interfered with the creation and maintenance of the proper atmosphere of a public school setting.
19 posted on 08/31/2009 11:39:11 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Sammy67

If the girl wants to join the Army, she needs to learn how to keep her mouth shut.


20 posted on 08/31/2009 11:41:13 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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