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Now it’s looking like V for victory over recession (The recession ended in second quarter of 2009)
The Times of London ^ | 8/30/2009 | Jim O'Neill

Posted on 08/31/2009 7:56:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Based on the evidence I have seen this month, it looks as though the world moved out of recession in the second quarter. When we see the evidence for this, in the third-quarter data, it is likely that many areas will have returned to close to trend growth.

Just as many people responded to my column of August 10 suggesting that I was seeing things through some hazy, rose-tinted lens, I expect that many will respond in the same manner this time. In my last piece, I dubbed this recent crisis “Facebook Crisis”, its true distinguishing characteristic being lots more emotional and subjective judgments than during others. It is likely that, for a while, actual evidence of recovery will again be met by scorn from many quarters, not least because unemployment, which matters most to those affected, will be the last signal to turn.

Opinions about the crisis finishing are also likely to continue to vary by country. Some will escape — indeed, may already have — less damaged than others. In this regard, the UK might be more challenged than some countries, although this might not be as insurmountable as people assume.

Look at the evidence. For a start, after the release of many countries’ 2Q GDP accounts, the OECD, the club that includes all main rich countries, estimates GDP fell slightly, 0.1 per cent in its area. They also suggest that GDP fell 0.1 per cent in the narrower super-rich club of the G7 countries (although Canada doesn’t report its performance until today). For both groups, this is a vast improvement over recent quarters, reflecting some encouraging signs in the “older” countries that make up the narrow club. In particular, Japan, France and Germany all positively surprised, with Japan showing close to a 1 per cent quarterly gain,

(Excerpt) Read more at business.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: financialcrisis; recession
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1 posted on 08/31/2009 7:56:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

FYI, The author is an Economist for your favorite Investment Bank — GOLDMAN SACHS.


2 posted on 08/31/2009 7:57:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Did this person predict the future sucessfully before?


3 posted on 08/31/2009 7:57:49 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting that the two laggards among the developed countries are the UK and USA — both of whom mounted massive “stimulus” spending.


4 posted on 08/31/2009 7:59:53 AM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well I wonder - does this mean that Obummer also INHERITED the recovery (if there really is a recovery)?


5 posted on 08/31/2009 8:00:50 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: SeekAndFind

A wave of the magic wand and the gravest crisis of the century is averted.

Yep. We have gone from Bush’s “worst economy” to Obama’s economic victory in one sleight of hand.

The magic negro and his commie politbureau have fixed it.
/sarc


6 posted on 08/31/2009 8:01:45 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: SeekAndFind

To the author “Hey stupid look out the f%^kin’ window!”


7 posted on 08/31/2009 8:05:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, mate. Looking more like ‘V For Vendetta’ to me.


8 posted on 08/31/2009 8:07:44 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” -George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

He!He! BULL$HIT!!!!!


9 posted on 08/31/2009 8:11:55 AM PDT by classified
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And while the MSM is screaming "We are saved" unemployment continues to grow, the stock markets are tanking (starting last evening with a -2% hit followed by a -1% hit in Europe, and paralleled with a -1% hit in US markets.

It looks like there's been a "market recovery bubble" and we're in for another drop of monumental proportions.

10 posted on 08/31/2009 8:12:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonderful, Mr. O’Neill. I believe you. So give me a job.


11 posted on 08/31/2009 8:13:51 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Economist must be the only job, other than meteorologist, when it comes to keeping your job based on your successful predictions........


12 posted on 08/31/2009 8:14:03 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let me get this straight. If I understand his article correctly, the “recession” ended in 2Q of this year because the economy is shrinking at a sustainable rate, which is just barely? The numbers all show and are expected to show that economies are still shrinking, but we should not consider growth as the indicator that the recession is over?

There seems to be a new measurement at work here that we can all get excited about. And forget that silly unemployment number, that’s the last thing to turn around anyway.

Funny, my memory isn’t quite what it used to be, but it seems about 24 months ago when all the new jobs that were being created were to be ignored because they were not “good” jobs. At least they are consistent here.


13 posted on 08/31/2009 8:20:05 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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Our Quarter-Century Penance Is Just Starting

Never in modern times has there been such a flat contradiction between the euphoria of markets and the stern warnings of officialdom at central banks and financial watchdogs.

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Published: 10:00PM BST 29 Aug 2009

Corporate credit has seen the steepest rally in almost a hundred years, according to Morgan Stanley. Hedge funds are reviving the final bubble play of early 2007, writing put options on long-dated "volatility" contracts to wring out extra profit.

It is as if the Great Contraction – as the Bank of England now calls it – was just a random shock, as if we should naturally expect "V-shaped" resurgence to take us back to where we were. Yet that is what precisely we are being told will not and cannot happen.

"The current financial crisis is unlike any others," says the Bank for International Settlements. Lasting damage has been done. The "cumulative output loss" is likely to reach 20pc of GDP in the major economies.

[snip]

14 posted on 08/31/2009 8:20:36 AM PDT by blam
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course.

In order to have the “W” shaped recession we’re headed for, we must have the “V” first. There’s just no other way to make a “W”.

;-)


15 posted on 08/31/2009 8:36:10 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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Recession: "A period of general economic decline; specifically; a decline in GDP for two or more consecutive quarters."

estimates GDP fell slightly, 0.1 per cent in its area.

By objective standards, it is still a recession.

16 posted on 08/31/2009 8:37:06 AM PDT by Ingtar (Obama's Fault: I live in a bowl below sea level)
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To: SeekAndFind

It could be a “W” or a “V”. We don’t know yet. Partly depends on whether Obama destroys what is left of the national economy. So far he has done his best to destroy it.


17 posted on 08/31/2009 10:27:19 AM PDT by buffyt (If ObamaScare is so great, WHY won't Congress and President USE IT, TOO????????????????????????)
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To: o_zarkman44

4% unemployment during Bush years = bad
10% unemployment during Obama months = good

any questions?


18 posted on 08/31/2009 10:28:55 AM PDT by buffyt (If ObamaScare is so great, WHY won't Congress and President USE IT, TOO????????????????????????)
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Insider Trading and Investor Sentiment Signaling U.S. Stock Market Top

Insider Selling in August Soars to 30.6 Times Insider Buying, Highest Level Since TrimTabs Began Tracking in 2004. NYSE Short Interest Plunges 10.3%, While Margin Debt Spikes 5.9%

SAUSALITO, Calif., Aug. 28 /PRNewswire/ — TrimTabs Investment Research reported that selling by corporate insiders in August has surged to $6.1 billion, the highest amount since May 2008. The ratio of insider selling to insider buying hit 30.6, the highest level since TrimTabs began tracking the data in 2004.

“The best-informed market participants are sending a clear signal that the party on Wall Street is going to end soon,” said Charles Biderman, CEO of TrimTabs.

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-28-2009/0005084471&EDATE=

Link originally posted by FromLori http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2328551/posts?page=6#6


19 posted on 08/31/2009 10:32:37 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: b4its2late

God made economists just to make meteorologists look good.


20 posted on 08/31/2009 12:58:30 PM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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