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Long article. It brings into question a lot more than the excerpt posted. I'm curious as to everyone's take on it. I don't think of myself as a conspiracy type person, however considering everything that has come to light, I have to wonder. What do yall think? I searched and didn't find this, so please forgive me if this is a repost.
1 posted on 08/31/2009 12:41:17 AM PDT by moonpie57
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To: MHGinTN; shibumi

ping.


2 posted on 08/31/2009 12:50:37 AM PDT by Semper Mark (ObamaCare was exemplified in the last days of the life of his "typical white" grandmother.)
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To: moonpie57
Where was the loud clamor for information about this man running for president?

Where were his medical records?

Where were his college transcripts?

Where was his thesis?

Where are all of his college friends?

Who paid for his college?

Why is all of his personal information sealed from public view?

Where was his passport information, especially his travelling abroad to Islamic countries?

I am angry with the media for sheltering this very IMPORTANT information from us!

What was their agenda?

3 posted on 08/31/2009 12:52:54 AM PDT by mckenzie7 (I am a European American! Silly me. I never realized that before! Thanks, oh great unifier!)
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To: moonpie57

Thank you for bringing this up!


4 posted on 08/31/2009 12:53:44 AM PDT by mckenzie7 (I am a European American! Silly me. I never realized that before! Thanks, oh great unifier!)
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To: moonpie57

Maybe that’s why so many talk show hosts won’t touch it? I don’t want to give them an excuse; however, it could be a reason.


5 posted on 08/31/2009 12:54:51 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: moonpie57

6 posted on 08/31/2009 12:55:21 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: moonpie57; M. Espinola; stephenjohnbanker; All
Excerpt:

Further, Williams asks: "Who spends an obscene $1-billion dollars to win a lousy $400,000-per-year job, and why?"

Richard Poe, award-winning journalist and New York Times-bestselling author, has written extensively on George Soros and makes a good case that the Hungarian-born Jew and self-admitted Nazi collaborator is the primary brains and money behind Obama — and, I believe, his healthcare travesty. When President Bush was in office, Poe wrote that Soros talked openly of a "regime change" in the United States.

"What about our country offends Soros so deeply," Poe asked, "that he would tell the BBC — during a time of war — that he means to use all of his power to 'puncture the bubble of American supremacy'"? Poe explained that Soros's Open Society Foundation, founded in 1984, "has spent millions promoting a radical agenda that includes abortion, feminism, gun control, abolition of capital punishment, voting rights for felons, drug legalization, euthanasia and gay marriage rights....the Soros cult preaches secularism, the godless faith of a world without nations, families, loyalty or tradition, a world in which the very words 'mother,' 'father,' 'husband,' 'wife,' 'son' and 'daughter' will be bleached of meaning forever."

Soros, Poe continued, "is one of the world's leading promoters of euthanasia, or 'mercy killing.' Not only does he advocate 'physician-assisted suicide' for patients who choose death voluntarily, he also lobbies for the right of family members or court-appointed guardians to authorize the killing of patients whose wishes are not known." Sounds a lot like the Death Panels Sarah Palin warned about, doesn't it? Soros also founded the Project on Death in America [which] promotes suicide and euthanasia and urges doctors to warehouse terminally ill patients in hospices and give them 'palliative' care ...rather than wasting time, energy and money actually trying to cure them."

Of course, all of these beliefs are eerily echoed in Obama's healthcare legislation, almost as if Soros had dictated the terms. Maybe he did! Maybe that was the price he exacted for financing a large part of Obama's presidential campaign and facilitating the cover-up of Obama's birth certificate and other documents.

And maybe that's why Obama is still paying Soros back by recently announcing that he will invest $2 billion (or more) in drilling for oil off the shores of Brazil, where none other than George Soros owns $5.8 million of the Brazilian oil company's U.S.-traded preferred share stock. * * *

7 posted on 08/31/2009 12:56:24 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: moonpie57

Here’s the August 7th show mentioned in the article:

http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour1Aug0709.mp3
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour2Aug0709.mp3
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour3Aug0709.mp3


8 posted on 08/31/2009 1:08:35 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: moonpie57
Who is behind quashing the birth certificate issue?

Sane American citizens?

9 posted on 08/31/2009 1:11:47 AM PDT by GoldStandard
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14 posted on 08/31/2009 2:09:55 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: moonpie57

FYI - Free Republic is mentioned in hour 2 at 28:50. Hagmann indicates that FR (and KOS as well for what that’s worth) has been infiltrated and that we are being marginalized by both paid and volunteer agents.


16 posted on 08/31/2009 2:17:15 AM PDT by fretzer
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To: moonpie57

Sorry but I cannot believe any more of these birther stories until at least one of them actually make a difference.

It is all well and good that there is a new theory every other day and most of them might be true. But unless something is going to come to fruition... besides being thrown out of court... I just cannot get my hopes up.

Thanks for posting this, tho. It was very interesting to read.
:D


17 posted on 08/31/2009 2:19:04 AM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: moonpie57
"What do yall think?"

I think the questions that mckenzie7 ask should be answered. Yes, they should have been answered before the election.

24 posted on 08/31/2009 2:34:59 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Drop Kick me Jesus through the Goal Post of Life.. . . . .But keep me in the MOB-& send -0- packing)
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To: moonpie57
One might ask “Who is behind raising the birth certificate issue when Obama’s father was never a citizen?” It does not matter where Obama was born. A year ago I didn't understand our constitution either. But when a written assertion is not clear, read the original source. But to make the point, which citizens should absolutely verify, as we are rapidly losing our republic, I'll state the facts:

No active U.S. statute (law) defines or modifies what a natural-born citizen is. The definition stated in at least ten supreme court cases, and probably more, is “...born in the country of parents who are its citizens.” (Chief Justice John Marshall in The Venus, 12 U.S. 253). This definition can only be changed by an amendment. There has been no such amendment, though at least 24 attempts have been made to start the process - which never got out of the congress.

Barack Obama, by his own admission, was born of a British father. He is simply not a natural born citizen. There is not need for school records or birth certificates, though it angers me that we elected someone who has hidden all his legal papers. He may or may not be a citizen. By British law, it seems quite clear that Barack is a British subject, and probably a citizen. But we don't care. Our constitution, for very good reasons, disallows anyone with competing allegiances, from becoming president. A dual citizen, as Barack describes himself, is inelligible to be president and commander in chief, with emphasis by John Jay and Joseph Story on the latter, of the world's most powerful army.

Why he was proffered as a presidential candidate is a puzzle? He is being protected by possibly traitorous Republicans such as Oren Hatch, who knows the constitution, and even Republicans I've respected such as James Imhofe, who also mis-states the constitution, and by all Democrats. Every Senator signed a worthless and deceptive Senate Resolution in 2008 asserting that John McCain was a natural-born citizen because he was born of citizen parents (Senate Res. 511). It wasn't true, but shows that are being represented by a collection of people not one of whom cares enough about our government to tell the truth. For McCain, they refer to the citizen parents clause; for Obama they explain that "citizen of the U.S." is natural-born. When pay-to-play is in force truth is a casualty. Perhaps they are afraid, but their fear is costing our freedom.

The Honduran legislature and supreme court had the integrity to remove a president who chose to ignore his constitution. He wanted to run for another term in office, and was about to ignore his constitution, using Chavez thugs to scare voters and probably stuff ballots. Obama has, not surprisingly, taken a stand against a representative republic, their legislature, and their constitution, and, with Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega and Fidel Castro, is helping to overthrow the representative democracy in Honduras, as he is ignoring the U.S. Constitution and demolishing separation of our branches of government. I think it quite possible that Obama is so confident in the success of his second American revolution that he is not afraid of being held to our legal standard. He intentionally ignored our Constitution - thumbed his nose at it by declaring his dual citizenship status before being sworn in. He might claim that Chief Justice John Roberts, fully knowing of Obama's status, gave the court's approval by swearing him in on Jan 20th.

I could refer you to John Jay requiring stronger requirements for president than “Citizen of the U.S.”; requesting that Washington change it to “natural-born citizen.” I could suggest you read Joseph Story's article in Article II Section 1. I would recommend visiting Mario Apuzzo’s site, since his pending law suits provide a clear exposition of the legal issues at http://puzo1.blogspot.com . Read the analysis by Leo Donofrio, who “discovered” that Chester Arthur had succesfully hidden the fact that his father too was a British citizen when Arthur was born - Arthur had all of his personal document burned just before his death. Read John Bingham, co-author of the 14th Amendment, speaking in 1866 to a joint session of congress where he is unequivocal obout the definition of natural-born citizen. Finally, read Alexander Hamilton explaining the origins of the body of laws from which natural-born citizen is drawn in his paper on Leibnizian Natural Law. Hamilton exlains the inherent weakness in British Law, lacking a constitution, and explaining the importance of Vattel's Law Of Nations, based upon Leibnizian Natural Law, to the founders as they wrote our Constitution.

We need to stop being distracted by the soap opera of Obama’s birthplace and childhood and help the public understand that he, with his allegiance to a Muslim Marxist father, actively involved with Kenyan politics, is just the sort of person our founders required natural-born citizenship to keep from occupying our highest office. It appears that all of our institutions lack the courage to raise this blatant betrayal of our constitution. People must drive this. Otherwise the battles around cap-and-trade and healthcare and defense will be moot. As unbelievable as it seems to many, Obama is supporting Zelaya’s insistence on his being allowed to “run” for president of Honduras as many times as he likes, just like Hugo Chavez, just like Fidel Castro. Chavez will supply the Acorn clones. He will “win” just as Ahmadinejad, and Fidel (the name of Obama’s cousin Odinga’s son) and Chavez have won. And Obama too will have such a grip on our institutions, with his Czars, corrupt judges, corrupt justice department, and corrupt legislature, that he too may be president for life.

27 posted on 08/31/2009 2:51:16 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: moonpie57

Being a pathological narcissist, Obama tries to charm most people. When rebuffed by the leaders of Russia and most of the middle east, he has shifted to subservient ingratiation. When he has chosen to take offense at Britain, Israel, Poland, the Czech Republic, and most of America, he has shifted to attempting intimidation. These two (or three?) behaviors — common to all bullies — are the only communication modes he knows. [None help him govern.]

Most of our media moguls have not backed Obama down, so the question is, are they his pets or his prisoners, whipped by his words into unquestioning obedience? In either case, they’ve abdicated their responsibility to inform the public, becoming at best drones and at worst parasites that the public will squash if Obama ever falls out of power.

If Obama’s thugs can quash dissent enough, skew the census and the 2010 elections enough, and keep Obama and liberals in power beyond 2010 — not 2012, but 10 — the One may be able to destroy this nation. If enough of the worst of his supporters get thrown out in 2010, he will very probably be ripe for impeachment.

Our problems? What can do about thugs at town halls and, presumably, any other public gatherings? How can we keep ACORN/SEIU from double or triple counting inner city blacks during the census? And how can we contain the fraud that will — not may, will — be attempted in November, 2010?

I wrack my old brain for answers... unsuccessfully. I’ll try any sensible tasks asked of me, but you who are younger will, or won’t, do the heavy lifting. Semper Fi. *Always.*


28 posted on 08/31/2009 3:03:34 AM PDT by JohnQ1 ("Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever." Oscar Wilde)
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To: moonpie57

This explains why the usual stalwarts (Coulter, Limbaugh) seem so low-key on the issue. I suppose this sort of power might even be able to put out a contract on Limbaugh. I have noticed that even calling and raising doubts on the subject on a conservative radio show brands one a “birther,” even if one is only raising questions. Indeed, aren’t the questions about his various hidden records a legitimate example of what Beck calls “reasonable questions?”


36 posted on 08/31/2009 3:33:47 AM PDT by Phantom4
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To: moonpie57

“FCC officials threatened to yank broadcasting licenses, break up conglomerates, and make the enactment of the Fairness Doctrine “look mild” in comparison to other consequences.”

Does that sound like a conspiracy theory?


56 posted on 08/31/2009 7:11:09 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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