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Deficits actually helping, not hurting the economy
Houston Chronicle/ NYT ^ | Aug. 28, 2009 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 08/29/2009 9:43:34 PM PDT by Lorianne

So new budget projections show a cumulative deficit of $9 trillion over the next decade. According to many commentators, that's a terrifying number, requiring drastic action — in particular, of course, canceling efforts to boost the economy and calling off health care reform.

The truth is more complicated and less frightening. Right now deficits are actually helping the economy. In fact, deficits here and in other major economies saved the world from a much deeper slump. The longer-term outlook is worrying, but it's not catastrophic.

The only real reason for concern is political. The United States can deal with its debts if politicians of both parties are, in the end, willing to show at least a bit of maturity. Need I say more?

Let's start with the effects of this year's deficit. There are two main reasons for the surge in red ink. First, the recession has led both to a sharp drop in tax receipts and to increased spending on unemployment insurance and other safety-net programs. Second, there have been large outlays on financial rescues. These are counted as part of the deficit, although the government is acquiring assets in the process and will eventually get at least part of its money back. What this tells us is that right now it's good to run a deficit. Consider what would have happened if the U.S. government and its counterparts around the world had tried to balance their budgets as they did in the early 1930s. It's a scary thought. If governments had raised taxes or slashed spending in the face of the slump, if they had refused to rescue distressed financial institutions, we could all too easily have seen a full replay of the Great Depression.

As I said, deficits saved the world.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodeficit; krugman; yeahright
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New national policy: Spend the stimulus money buying everyone a livelong supply of whatever this guy is smoking.
1 posted on 08/29/2009 9:43:34 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

I guess he forgot to add the “barf alert”.


2 posted on 08/29/2009 9:47:07 PM PDT by ak267
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To: ak267

I was too stunned reading it to remember how to barf.


3 posted on 08/29/2009 9:48:22 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
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4 posted on 08/29/2009 9:48:32 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Lorianne
although the government is acquiring assets in the process

There's called toxic assets - the exact type of "assets" that banks can't get rid of fast enough.

5 posted on 08/29/2009 9:49:54 PM PDT by eclecticEel (The Most High rules in the kingdom of men ... and sets over it the basest of men.)
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To: Lorianne

How many of these liberal rags told us that the Bush deficits or the Reagan deficits were a “good thing”???

There is a reason why the MSM is going broke, and it is not just the economy!


6 posted on 08/29/2009 9:50:47 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Lorianne
The truth is more complicated and less frightening. Right now deficits are actually helping the economy. In fact, deficits here and in other major economies saved the world from a much deeper slump.

Timothy Leary would be proud of this ditz! Yes... eating feces and drinking urine is actually good for you... blah, blah, blah...

7 posted on 08/29/2009 9:53:12 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Lorianne

IMHO, Krugman is in serious need of help. He needs to get help with that “tingle.”


8 posted on 08/29/2009 9:55:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my country?)
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To: Lorianne

Marxist first, wrapped in the thin veil of an economist.

It like saying, because your burning up with fever from the flu, you should sit on a block of ice too cool yourself.


9 posted on 08/29/2009 9:57:22 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: Lorianne
If governments had raised taxes or slashed spending in the face of the slump, if they had refused to rescue distressed financial institutions, we could all too easily have seen a full replay of the Great Depression.

Krugman refuses to consider how the financial institutions got in trouble in the first place. It's as if depressions just blow in out of a cloud every now and then.

10 posted on 08/29/2009 9:59:42 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Lorianne

The author fails to realize how anti-growth Mr Obama’s economic policies are. Any other time, with nearly any other president, it might work to borrow some to pull though hard times, realizing that once America is up to full stem, we could pay off that debt with our monsterous economic machine.

However, as Mr Obama is hellbent on Socializing our nation, there won’t be an economic monster ready to step up and pay down that debt. Next year, when forecasting the debt to 2020, it’ll be revised up to something like $12 trillion instead of “only” the $9 trillion forecast now until 2019. Count on it!


11 posted on 08/29/2009 10:03:52 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Lorianne

Would you trust this guy?!

12 posted on 08/29/2009 10:06:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Lorianne

As a Texan I’d like to apologize for Houston. They’re like Austin, only much dumber.


13 posted on 08/29/2009 10:07:06 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: Lorianne

Deficits are not necessarily bad, and I think Krugman is right in that deficits can be used to temporarily prop up economic activity. It’s true that government might need to occasionally spend more than it receives in taxes, like during national emergencies.

It’s a matter of degree. How deep in debt can we afford to go and for how long? At some point, the deficits can start doing more damage than good. The problem is how the money is spent and what policies brought us to the point where our leaders chose massive deficits in an attempt to “save the economy.”

Does anyone seriously believe the jokers presently running our government are going to have the discipline to fix these deficits and halt out-of-control government spending in the future? I wouldn’t bet on it.


14 posted on 08/29/2009 10:11:56 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I think I saw her at a party in college, but I don’t remember.


15 posted on 08/29/2009 10:17:01 PM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid! My new environmentalist inspired tagline: cut, kill, dig and drill)
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To: Lorianne
Obviously there's not a lot of oxygen in some parts of Houston in August.

Note the A-hat fails to consider Tax Cuts, the only way out of this mess.

Sounds like a bloody Monty Python skit.

16 posted on 08/29/2009 10:17:41 PM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: ak267

So if I lose my job and am in debt, the best thing I should do is go out and max out my credit cards? Krugman is an idiot.


17 posted on 08/29/2009 10:17:48 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: Lorianne

Hey... The Houston Chronicle is loaded with great Economists! Just how in the world can you disagree with them?

Anyway, when all of this falls apart - who is going to blame them for this? Not me...I will be trying to survive...


18 posted on 08/29/2009 10:19:52 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Lorianne
Cool I should just go out tomorrow and buy a big yaught with my credit cards.

I can make the payments but I don't know if I will be able to buy fuel.

I got unemployement checks coming every week maybe Obama will get me a raise.... Maybe.............Maybe tax revenue grows on trees?...........I think I am stroking out here.

19 posted on 08/29/2009 10:25:19 PM PDT by right way right
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To: CitizenUSA
You are playing both sides of the fence here and it is a stupid way to argue.

You are giving prop for a f****** socialist like Krugman who only thinks deficit is good because a socialist President is doing it and spending trillions of dollars on socialist and welfare causes. Did the asshole think that the much smaller deficit under President Bush was good? Of course not.

20 posted on 08/29/2009 10:25:21 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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