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Patriot Emergency Communications System Needed

Posted on 08/29/2009 3:54:17 PM PDT by oldfart

One of the nice things about internet bulletin boards is the anonymity of each poster. Of course it isn’t perfect since the board owner has enough information to positively identify everyone and TPTB can (and probably will) demand that data whenever they choose. In the meantime there is one way our paranoia can be used against us.

We all swear that our “line in the sand” is the confiscation of our guns. We say that if and when it happens we will get the word out on the internet and thus mobilize thousands of patriots.

Good idea. But what if there is no internet? What if the President decides to use his power to turn off private access to the net before the confiscation begins? How will we notify others of what is happening?

One thing this administration has taught me is to never assume they’re doing anything abstractly… they always have a good reason for what they do and when they do it. After years in the Illinois legislature furthering gun control Obama has spent eight months in the Presidency without even so much as trying to push a gun control bill. But in the last week we’ve heard that at least one Federal judge (from Chicago, I believe)believes gun registration is Constitutional and now we see a bill introduced to give the President new powers to control the internet in the event of some ill-defined “cyber emergency.” Where other Presidents have – when once elected – generally ignored the organizations that helped them get elected, this President is advertising for “recruits” to continue working for the “change” he espoused.

I wonder what color their shirts will be, brown?

So suppose TPTB discover (or manufacture) some sort of ‘cyber emergency,’ shut down servers all over the country and then begin kicking in doors. How do we get the word out? We’ll still have computers but they’ll be severely handicapped. We used to be able to simply call up the other guy’s computer and converse back and forth. But we had the “other guy’s” phone number then too – and his name! Now, in our paranoia, we’ve hidden behind screen names that usually don’t even describe us very well. One name that I see on several boards is “LYCAN.” How would I contact him without the internet? What if he were the first one to be raided? How would any of us know in time to be ready for our own “knock on the door?”

We need some sort of phone tree where each of us has two or more numbers to contact if the balloon goes up. Perhaps there’s some way we could utilize those cheap throwaway phones I see at the supermarket checkout line. Comments?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commmunistcoup; gunconfiscation; internetcontrol
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To: oldfart

It almost esacped me: Sound cards and HF radios work together to do a variety of digital comms ... like RTTY and PSK31 (nice for weak signal keyboard to keyboard work). Through the miracle of a bit of bit mixing magic (like DES or better yet AES) out would come a soup that’d be tough to make sense of ...


121 posted on 08/29/2009 8:11:16 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Mariner

Bookmarking for future reference.


122 posted on 08/29/2009 8:15:37 PM PDT by Palladin (Obamacare=Emanuelcare=Mengelecare!)
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To: grumpygresh
What would you personally recommend for getting a HAM radio or CB?
Something like any of the ICOMs or Kenwoods (they will do wide-band TX and RX as well) built in the last 15 years are candidates. Yoy don't really want the tubed-PA radios of the 70's and early/mid 80's to be frank.

What is also desirable is: an antenna tuner! You would find otherwise your radio is 'happy' over just a very small segment on 80 Meters before the VSWR circuitry starts to throttle back the RF output ...

123 posted on 08/29/2009 8:16:27 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: grumpygresh
"if this nonsense actually occurred, wouldn’t some members of the military and law enforcement remember their constitutional oath"

You can trust the US military in the long run...but they could be used in a limited role that has been characterized as "riot control" or "public safety". However, once the leadership understands a contra-constitutional government is calling the shots, they'll likely move to our side.

As would many state/local LEO. 50-50. Additionally, 90% of non-military federals are NOT to be trusted. Even if they "defect".

IF the balloon goes up (almost everyone has a different threshold here) you'll need to already know who you'll be collaborating with. Meeting places. Code words. Relocation contingencies. Medical care. Communications processes.

Once it happens, no new friends...unless you witness them commit a capital crime.

124 posted on 08/29/2009 8:16:29 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
I would only fear any large call to organize, anything local would be easy to spot as a sting operation. Not unless FR is in actuality a communistic front established many years ago for the sole purpose to destroy all free speech and dissent....
125 posted on 08/29/2009 8:17:11 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: _Jim
I have been reading positive reviews of the Galaxy DX 959. http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/959.html
126 posted on 08/29/2009 8:19:42 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: snippy_about_it
How far is the range of Ham radios without using a giant (expensive) antenna?

Worldwide with cheap wire in a pine tree. Look up Carolina Window.

127 posted on 08/29/2009 8:21:47 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Need an Angry Mob? Why not call the DNC, they have a wide selection to choose from.)
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To: mark3681

There are little hand held FM walkie talkies with 20 mile ranges now.


128 posted on 08/29/2009 8:22:46 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: _Jim

PSK31 might be best of all.


129 posted on 08/29/2009 8:23:43 PM PDT by Erasmus (Barack Hussein Obama: America's toast!)
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To: Eye of Unk

Geez ... I think those models have echo and sidetone (your voice comes out an auxilary speaker jack for monitoring your ‘sound’) and the ‘roger beep’ as standard features too ...


130 posted on 08/29/2009 8:23:54 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Erasmus

I love the PSK31 displays that show the 3, 4 or 5 QSOs in progress all at the same time ... neat stuff ... one can see the callsigns and their locations and decide who you’re going to ‘call’ next.


131 posted on 08/29/2009 8:25:54 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: Professional Engineer

Err...make that “Carolina Windom.”


132 posted on 08/29/2009 8:31:51 PM PDT by Erasmus (Barack Hussein Obama: America's toast!)
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To: _Jim
"There is a network of beaccons just above the 80 M band (4.096 MHz area) that I defy anyone to DF and locate! It's not quite that easy ... moving up to 20M with good propagation and this becomes even more fun ... but preferences run to 40 or 80 Meters for 'theater' operations that can be run without repeaters on tall comm towers that normally yield 40 - 60 mile range".

Jim, with all due respect, if the signal can be heard, it can be found. It is the element of warfare that the US has no equal.

These are military assets and have not been deployed in civilian law enforcement actions by the FCC. However, a truly fascist regime would not hesitate...IF the military goes along.

133 posted on 08/29/2009 8:33:21 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
Jim, with all due respect, if the signal can be heard, it can be found. It is the element of warfare that the US has no equal.
Is this armchair quarterbacking by someone who hasn't been in the field?

You THINK you can locate it, until you're down to the last several miles (could be as little as 5 miles) ... and bearings change (skywave overtakes groundwave - ever heard that concept?) And this is practicing on cooperative 'targets' that continuously transmit, not a rabbit that takes breaks and obsersves silent periods.

Methinks all your time might have been spent with line-of-sight VHF DFing, and that is easy (easier than HF).

134 posted on 08/29/2009 8:41:39 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: _Jim

While I have expertise in other areas not worth mentioning I have little experience with CB or HAM, I use on a daily basis a two way FM company radio but thats extremely limited basically to only the company.

i am still reading reviews on this model, some people complain it lacks nighttime illumination but otherwise is top of the line, next stop is to find a truckers forum and see what they prefer.


135 posted on 08/29/2009 8:41:42 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Eye of Unk
i am still reading reviews on this model, some people complain it lacks nighttime illumination
Keep your eyes peeled for Kenwood TS140 or TS680. It will RX and TX everywhere you want, and be usable on the ham bands too. I would leave the Galaxy 'stuff' to the, ah, truckers.
136 posted on 08/29/2009 8:44:27 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: _Jim

http://www.truckercountry.com/cb-radio.html

Trucker Country CB Radio FAQ


137 posted on 08/29/2009 8:47:12 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: _Jim
Through the miracle of a bit of bit mixing magic (like DES or better yet AES) out would come a soup that’d be tough to make sense of ...

DES and AES are crackable via brute force (lodestone or distributive computer network). See www.distributed.net for an example of distributed computer network cracking. Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) with 1024 bit encryption is (so far) unbreakable. When PGP is used with Private Idaho mixmaster remailers it becomes impossible to trace the sender or the recipient. Any email hence becomes anonymous and encrypted.

- Traveler

138 posted on 08/29/2009 8:47:45 PM PDT by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: _Jim

I would rather be just like another trucker in due respect. Better to blend in and not stick out.

Truckers cannot be silenced, no way no how, even if diesel was prohibited we would go back to a 40 mule team...and still have a CB.


139 posted on 08/29/2009 8:50:31 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: meowmeow

lol. That’d be a hoot to hijack that place.


140 posted on 08/29/2009 8:50:46 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Need an Angry Mob? Why not call the DNC, they have a wide selection to choose from.)
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