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Getting Mean and Distinctly Ugly (Free Republic Dissed as 'Chappaquiddick-Type people')
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | Friday, August 28, 2009 | Janice Kennedy

Posted on 08/29/2009 2:01:07 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: kristinn
Chappaquiddick-type people possess a meanness of spirit that goes beyond simple politics.

Meanness of spirit because a man got away with killing a girl. Joran Vandersloot would approve.

241 posted on 08/29/2009 9:35:20 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Califreak

Exactly.

As I told a family member several days ago, I can think of a lot of things to criticize about Ted Kennedy - and I’ll never mention Chapaquiddick at all.


242 posted on 08/29/2009 10:23:43 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: kristinn
"Chappaquiddick-type people possess a meanness of spirit that goes beyond simple politics."

This...coming from the same leftist aholes that squealed the lie that Bush was AWOL for nine freaking years. And that's just ONE of the lies they bleated about Bush. I recall several others, one involving Bush and an abortion supposedly performed at Twelve Oaks Hospital, supposedly on someone other than Laura Bush.

And then there's the despicable way (oh wait...make that mean-spirited) they ALL attacked Sarah Palin unmercifully and on a personal and family level.

Leftists are nothing if not dishonest opportunists (liars) and pieces of fecal matter.

243 posted on 08/29/2009 10:43:55 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: kristinn

Apparently Massachusetts didn’t have any Democrats qualified to be a senator who did not leave a young woman in the water to die. Kennedy was their only choice. Oh, they did have that guy who turned against his country and is lauded in the commie museum in Ho Chi Minh City as their military hero.


244 posted on 08/29/2009 11:37:40 PM PDT by doug from upland (10 million views of .HILLARY! UNCENSORED - put some ice on it, witch)
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To: Slings and Arrows

It was nearly eleven in the evening on March 30, 1991 when Senator Ted Kennedy, his son Patrick, 23, and nephew William Kennedy Smith, 30, left the Kennedy familys Palm Beach, Florida ocean front holiday retreat

William also met a woman named Patricia Bowman, a 29-year-old single mother out with her girlfriend, Anne Weatherly Mercer. Later that evening when the bars closed, the two couples went back to the Kennedy family retreat for the remainder of the evening.

Michelle and Patrick drank wine and talked in the living room. According to Green, at one point Ted Kennedy walked into the room without his trousers and sporting only a long-tailed shirt, something that made Michelle Cassone feel extremely uncomfortable. She was quoted in the article saying that they went to sit outside on the sea wall, where the three talked about the ocean and the importance of the family

Michelle, Patrick and Ted, who were also at the estate, allegedly had no knowledge that any crime occurred that evening.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/celebrity/william_k_smith/index.html


245 posted on 08/29/2009 11:48:00 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Get a load of this one, FRiends! (Thanks, kristinn)
246 posted on 08/29/2009 11:52:01 PM PDT by nutmeg (Obamunism is destroying America)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Janice Kennedy:

The gal from Wasilla has ambitions — bold, broad, nationwide ambitions — because big whoppers like that can not possibly be the words of a retired, or retiring, politician.

What is less clear is their psychology. Claims about death panels and disposable people are so breathtakingly, extravagantly, criminally false that the reeling mind can only wonder: does she actually believe this? Or is she spreading such jaw-dropping dishonesty in the full knowledge that it’s wrong and malicious?

Crudely put, the question comes down to this: is Sarah Palin really that dumb, or is she really that Machiavellian?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/Heading+right+White+House/1894408/story.html


247 posted on 08/30/2009 12:02:17 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kristinn

The Kennedy Curse, by Edward Klein, is the latest entry. The premise is simple: “The Kennedy Curse is the result of the destructive collision between the Kennedys’ fantasy of omnipotence — their need to get away with things that others cannot — and the cold, hard realities of life.”

Sen. Ted Kennedy once wondered “whether some awful curse did actually hang over all the Kennedys.” Of course, the distinguished Democrat from Massachusetts has been the author of many of his own problems. A case in point is the Palm Beach incident of 1991, when the famous senator went romping with his son Patrick (now a Rhode Island congressman) and William Kennedy Smith.

Klein is the first writer to have gone through the boxes of sworn statements, depositions, and other official documents associated with the ensuing rape trial. His chapter on the events of March 29, 1991 and what took place afterward are riveting.

A few scene-setting excerpts:

“Because few people had seen the Kennedy compound from the inside, the house had acquired a certain mysterious allure, and men in the family often exploited this attraction during the annual Easter hunt for women. The promise of ‘a quiet drink at the house’ was a surefire technique for luring women back to the compound for sex.”

“Sex itself was never the primary purpose of these evenings; it was an opportunity for the Kennedys to put on a show of manly swagger in front of one another and to demonstrate that women were discardable objects.”

“The Kennedys behaved as though they were invulnerable and had nothing to fear. Palm Beach was their seraglio, a place of licentious pleasure. It was there that they could drink themselves into a state of drunken senselessness and turn sex into a power game of seduction, manipulation, and control.”

“Perhaps [Ted] was hoping that his young son and nephew could help a drunken, grossly overweight, middle-aged man get lucky again that night.”

As it turned out, the two younger Kennedys each brought a woman back to the compound late that night, which happened to be Good Friday. Willy took his companion, Patty Bowman, to the beach just outside. There, according to Bowman, he raped her. What’s more, she told a police detective that the senator must have known what was going on.

Klein describes the conversation: “’When [Willy and I] went to the beach, [Ted] was there, and I was screaming, No! and Stop, and I remember thinking, ‘Ted Kennedy is here. Why doesn’t he come down and stop this man?’’”

If Ted Kennedy didn’t hear Bowman, perhaps it’s because he had become Peeping Ted. His son was in his bedroom with Michele Cassone. At the trial, Cassone spoke about what happened: “Patrick and I were ... making out, kissing. ... About ten minutes at the most later, the senator emerged through the door from inside the house ... and at this time he only has on a button-down oxford shirt. He has taken his slacks off. I didn’t see if he had any Jockeys or boxers on [because the shirt] came halfway down the thighs. He was standing there, wobbling, and had no pants on. ... And I was just really freaked out.”

Around this time, Bowman says she escaped from the clutches of Smith. She ran back into the house, hid, and then called friends on a cordless phone. They came and picked her up. Then Bowman reported what happened to the police.

Klein describes what happened next: “Teddy appeared to get himself tangled in a web of lies and contradictions.” Many of his statements didn’t seem to jibe with what others were saying about that night at the compound. “What’s more, Teddy stonewalled the police and, at times, interfered with their investigation.” When the police came to the compound on Easter Sunday, for instance, one of the senator’s henchmen told them that Ted and Willy weren’t there — even though they really were. Later on, the Kennedys leaked unflattering information about Bowman to the press, even though liberals aren’t supposed to “blame the victim.” NBC and the New York Times even used her name, despite Florida’s rape-shield law.

Willy, of course, was eventually acquitted — rape convictions can be difficult to secure, especially when one of America’s most powerful families has a vested interest in protecting their members. Yet it’s impossible to read Klein’s account and not think something awful happened that night — and that Ted Kennedy, that hero of Chappaquiddick, was a party to it.

Keep it in mind the next time Kennedy take to the floor of the Senate for a lecture on social justice.

http://tinyurl.com/lhqtew


248 posted on 08/30/2009 12:06:06 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kristinn

May 21, 2008,

Reckless Sex and Power III: The Top Seven Kennedy Sex Scandals Kennedys’ reckless sex

Here, in reverse order of importance, are the top seven Kennedy sex scandals:

7. Joe Kennedy, son of Robert Kennedy and former Congressman, secretly had his 12-year marriage to Sheila Rauch annulled by the Vatican. Rauch only found out about the annulment years later, after Kennedy remarried. She wrote a very angry book about the experience, Shattered Faith, since the Church’s decreeing that the marriage never existed left her twin sons in everlasting limbo. Rauch pointed out that only powerful people like the Kennedy’s could unilaterally cancel 12 years of marriage. (This raises the question of whether the Church can gain entry to Heaven for powerful people who have sinned.)

6. One of the storied political couplings of the twentieth century was between Andrew Cuomo, son of former New York Governor Mario Cuomo, and Kerry Kennedy, daughter of Robert Kennedy. The younger Cuomo was forced to withdraw his own bid for the governorship (although he is now New York’s Attorney General) in 2002 when it was revealed that his wife, to whom he had been married 13 years and with whom he had three daughters, had been having a long-term affair with a married man. Kerry Kenedy’s philandering shows that Kennedy disregard for marital niceties extends to the distaff side of the family as well.

5. An extremely unappetizing Kennedy scandal involved Joe’s brother and campaign manager, Michael. Like his brother and sister, Michael was stably married with children when it was revealed he had been having an affair with a family babysitter, beginning when the girl was 14! This, of course, is a crime that would get a non-Kennedy registered as a sexual predator. For some reason (perhaps bribery and threats to her and her family), the girl refused to press charges, and Kennedy entered treatment for sex and alcohol addiction. Michael Kennedy had been keeping an extremely low profile when he died in an accident on a family skiing trip.

4. All of these scandals concerned third-generation Kennedy’s. But the stories of sexual assaults, infidelity, and religious hypocrisy began with the family’s patriarch, Joe Kennedy. In Swanson on Swanson, silent screen star Gloria Swanson revealed having an affair with Kennedy when, she claimed, he forced himself on her during his business trips to Hollywood when he left his saintly wife, Rose, at home in Massachusetts. (Swanson was most pissed off that, despite his legendary financial acumen, Joe lost a ton of her dough.) Other Kennedy family historians report that the elder Kennedy made advances on his sons’ girlfriends!

3. Back to the younger Kennedy’s, in 1991 Kennedy nephew William Smith was charged with rape while staying with uncle Teddy in the family’s seaside estate in Palm Beach, FL. The woman claimed she met Smith at a night club at which he was accompanied by Ted Kennedy and his son, Patrick. Later, while ostensibly showing her around the estate, Smith began pursuing and pawing her as she tried to escape. Other women were found who described having similar experiences with the Kennedy nephew, but Smith was acquitted.

2. Both President Jack Kennedy - whose sexual escapades were legendary - and younger brother Bobby had closely contiguous sexual liaisons with Marilyn Monroe. Numerous conspiracy theories have been developed around the Kennedys’ involvement in Monroe’s death, which occurred in the aftermath of these affairs. At a minimum, the relationships were extremely damaging to Monroe’s fragile mental health.

1. What could most interfere with Ted Kennedy’s passage to Heaven (as it frustrated his aspirations to be president) was his involvement in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne. Following a party with six young female campaign workers on the island of Chappaquiddick, Kennedy was giving Kopechne a ride back to her hotel when he drove off a bridge. Kopechne drowned in the car, and Kennedy left the scene to consult with Kennedy family advisers. In fact, he never reported the incident, which was discovered independently the next morning! Kennedy was charged only with leaving the scene of an accident.

Of course, you and I can wonder how our lives would have been derailed if we were involved in a situation like this (Kennedy was married). But the Kennedy’s are not deterred by such experiences, as the subsequent actions of his nephews and niece indicate. Are there separate rules - both legal and psychological - for people like the Kennedy’s?

P.S. (Feb 19, 2009): Perhaps the greatest “scandal” - more of a tragedy - was the case of Ted’s wife at the time of Chappaquiddick, Joan Bennett Kennedy, who became a ravaged alcoholic (in 2005, when she was 68, her children took legal guardianship of her affairs after several late-life drunken episodes). The “Kennedy wife thing” of tolerating non-stop cheating while establishing her own life didn’t work well for her (unlike Jackie). According to the Boston Globe: “During the [wedding] festivities, Jack [who was 15 years his brother’s senior], Ted’s godfather and best man, wore a microphone because the Bennetts had hired a film crew as a wedding gift. Later, watching the footage, Joan would hear Jack whisper to his brother that marriage didn’t mean you had to be faithful.” Question for Kennedy buffs - did Ted contribute to Joan’s lifelong alcoholism?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/addiction-in-society/200805/reckless-sex-and-power-iii-the-top-seven-kennedy-sex-scandals


249 posted on 08/30/2009 12:09:37 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kristinn

Newsday:

“To many historians, the family paid an extraordinarily high price for its political aspirations, which were rooted in the dreams of the hard-driving family patriarch, Joseph Kennedy.”

“One of his most far-reaching measures was his push for the 1965 Immigration Reform Act, first proposed by President Kennedy shortly before his death, which opened the door to millions of new immigrants from Asia, Central America, Africa and other locales once restricted under U.S. policy.”

“leaving the scene of an accident in 1970 and his two-month sentence was suspended”

“Even with Kennedy’s death, the myth of Camelot will surely continue, as Kennedy himself suggested in his 1980 Democratic National Convention speech, when he conceded the nomination to Carter.”


250 posted on 08/30/2009 12:22:51 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl; nutmeg

Whelp...when it comes down to how she actually died...you can count it up to the fact that she was submerged, and within the pocket of air, she succumbed...without air...she didn’t drown, IOW.

IMO, Kennedy was s***.


251 posted on 08/30/2009 12:46:21 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Obama Cancels War on Terrorism to Focus on War on Grandma)
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To: nutmeg

ChappaquiddickCare doesn’t bother me...

Teddy foisted HMOs on us.

I think the timing of his death is fitting.

BTW, I’m one who has been called “racist” on this forum.

I’m one who has lived with the PC crap, however I’ve rejected it because it’s a trojan horse.

I love this country, and I believe we’re gonna WIN!


252 posted on 08/30/2009 1:00:21 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Obama Cancels War on Terrorism to Focus on War on Grandma)
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To: kristinn
Here's a good retort by Mark Steyn


Mark Steyn: Airbrushing out Mary Jo Kopechne ("Only a Kennedy could get away with it.")

“….We are all flawed, and most of us are weak, and in hellish moments, at a split-second’s notice, confronting the choice that will define us ever after, many of us will fail the test. Perhaps Mary Jo could have been saved; perhaps she would have died anyway. What is true is that Edward Kennedy made her death a certainty. When a man (if you’ll forgive the expression) confronts the truth of what he has done, what does honor require? ……………”.

Ted Kennedy went a different route. He got kitted out with a neck brace and went on TV and announced the invention of the “Kennedy curse,” a concept that yoked him to his murdered brothers as a fellow victim — and not, as Mary Jo perhaps realized in those final hours, the perpetrator. He dared us to call his bluff, and, when we didn’t, he made all of us complicit in what he’d done. We are all prey to human frailty, but few of us get to inflict ours on an entire nation.

His defenders would argue that he redeemed himself with his “progressive” agenda, up to and including health-care “reform.” It was an odd kind of “redemption”: In a cooing paean to the senator on a cringe-makingly obsequious edition of NPR’s Diane Rehm Show, Edward Klein of Newsweek fondly recalled that one of Ted’s “favorite topics of humor was, indeed, Chappaquiddick itself. He would ask people, ‘Have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?’”

“…………When a man is capable of what Ted Kennedy did that night in 1969 and in the weeks afterwards, what else is he capable of? An NPR listener said the senator’s passing marked “the end of civility in the U.S. Congress.” Yes, indeed. Who among us does not mourn the lost “civility” of the 1987 Supreme Court hearings? Considering the nomination of Judge Bork, Ted Kennedy rose on the Senate floor and announced that “Robert Bork’s America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit down at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens’ doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution . . . ” ………………….”

Whoa! “Liberals” (in the debased contemporary American sense of the term) would have reason to find Borkian jurisprudence uncongenial, but to suggest the judge and former solicitor-general favored re-segregation of lunch counters is a slander not merely vile but so preposterous that, like his explanation for Chappaquiddick, only a Kennedy could get away with it. If you had to identify a single speech that marked “the end of civility” in American politics, that’s a shoo-in.

………”


253 posted on 08/30/2009 1:01:42 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: kcvl

Truly, he left a legacy to challenge future generations.


254 posted on 08/30/2009 1:08:09 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: kristinn

Consider yourself fortunate Janice you weren’t in the car with Rum Dumb on that fateful day.


255 posted on 08/30/2009 4:05:10 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: kristinn; All
From the Article: “The small souls who spend their days hanging out in discussion forums at Free Republic,....”

Not to worry! Every time “we small souls” get mentioned there are hundreds of folks who come to FR to take a look for themselves and they soon join when they realize that the truth is reported on Free Republic!

Just another example of how the truth is just to difficult for the Socialist liberals to accept!

At least the name calling of being a “small soul” is kind of true of me. I am rather thin and weigh 105! And oh how I love learning the truth on FR! :)

256 posted on 08/30/2009 5:38:55 AM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: kcvl
“Claims about death panels and disposable people are so breathtakingly, extravagantly, criminally false that the reeling mind can only wonder: does she actually believe this?”

Again, she is ignorant of her own ignorance, but writes with ‘authority’ anyway. Irrespective of whether or not you call them ‘death panels’, the definitive truth is that when your goal is to decrease the amount of money spent on health care at the ‘end of life’, and you set up boards to decide what will be paid for and what won’t, and you emphasize end of life counseling (i.e. “here are your options for ‘death with dignity’”), you are setting up a system that will result in an earlier death for many elderly. These are just the fundamental truths.

The NHS policy guide contains this exact statement:

“New treatments are usually, but not always, more expensive. Within the finite resources of each Trust and of the NHS as a whole adoption of these treatments has to be justified in terms of the improvements they will bring to the quality or cost-effectiveness of care. The priorities for funding new areas of treatment and patient care will be determined at Trust level.”

The reality revealed by this statement is that rationing is a strong and fundamental element of NHS, and that who gets what and when is decided by a government board - plain and simple. Pointing out that this is the inevitable result of the health care bill the democrats are pushing is neither ‘dumb’, nor Machiaellian. It’s just a true statement of fact.

Ms. Kennedy needs to spend more time fact checking before writing.

257 posted on 08/30/2009 6:25:27 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
THE KENNEDY MYTH: A LEGACY THAT FAILS TO LIVE UP TO THE LEGEND

Nuff said.

258 posted on 08/30/2009 6:30:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Califreak

There are so many reasons to despise Ted Kennedy.

Chappaquiddick is just the icing on the cake.

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Exactly!

Typically, the Left tries to dillute our outrage at their anti-American activities by focusing on something else. With Benito Obama, for example, they perfidiously claim our resistance is based on some sort of racist tendencies. (Of course, the reason the Bilderbergers chose as their puppet a man of mixed race was precisely so they could throw up that base canrd.)


259 posted on 08/30/2009 7:04:10 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Lancey Howard
I hope the Canadian newspapers are dying off as fast as they are in America.

They are Lancey. They are.

260 posted on 08/30/2009 7:42:21 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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