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Bill would give president emergency control of Internet
CNET ^ | August 28, 2009 12:34 AM PDT | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 08/28/2009 8:13:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Soothesayer9

I hope it does not come to it either, but BUT got to remember with the internet being a part of free enterprise, Obama touching that internet would open a pandoria’s box for trouble.


461 posted on 08/29/2009 3:48:39 AM PDT by Biggirl ("God Is Great, Beer Is Good, People Are Crazy"-Billy Currington :)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: fretzer

Actually, I already have a CCNA (though I never saw any video when I was studying for it, and I need to renew), as well as an MCSE, a MCSA, and a CISSP. And I have a Masters in information assurance, but I’m sure there are plenty of folks for whom this is useful.


462 posted on 08/29/2009 6:37:26 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just want to reassure all of you who are worried about the government “shutting down” the Internet, or even portions of it.

Every bank in the world, almost all large businesses, and every large financial transaction in the world, today, is made over the Internet; that includes the business of the FED and the US Treasury. All international diplomatic communication are carried out over the Internet, and at least half of all military communication.

The Government cannot shut down the Internet without shutting itself down (which is really not a bad idea, actually).

If the Internet were shut down today, all the communication necessary to maintain trucking shipments, for example, would be lost. In 72 hours Washington DC would be starving. Every major city in the country only has enough food to sustain it for 3 days, and only the continuous replenishment by truckers keeps those cities from starving.

Shutting down the Internet would eliminate all electronic Bank transactions (which today is 99% of them), and eliminate the control of most nation-wide control system (think gas and oil pipelines).

Shutting down the internet would mean the almost instantaneous destruction of the world’s enonomy and society. Even Obama is not that stupid.

Think it over.

Hank


463 posted on 08/29/2009 6:38:26 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: maggief

Yes...many FReepers have short memories and don’t recall that it was the Bush Administration that first started this garbage. Heck, remember the provisions in the John Warner DAA?


464 posted on 08/29/2009 6:39:47 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Even Obama is not that stupid.

It's not a matter of stupid. It's a matter of marxists goals.

Think it over.

465 posted on 08/29/2009 6:40:39 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I have only one word for Sen. Rockefeller: NUTS.

5.56mm

466 posted on 08/29/2009 6:43:42 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: pillut48
This sort of thing can and WILL be abused by these boneheads in the WH in the name of 'security'

They are already trying to define the swine flu as an emergency.....

.....laying the ground work for a crisis.

467 posted on 08/29/2009 6:54:19 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Right now the internet is the biggest enemy 0b0z0 and his thugs have and our best tool to expose them.

“(Dave, remember the warning we were given for pulling an unauthorized eavesdrooping offense.....$10,000 and 10 years for each offense.)”

I guess the warnings on eavesdropping only applies those not in the 0b0z0 camp.


468 posted on 08/29/2009 7:01:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Marty62

I think they are busy pushing bills such as this under the radar. My opinion is they don’t want the healthcare bill to pass. Not yet anyway. They are just using it as cover.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp


469 posted on 08/29/2009 7:02:35 AM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Life Is Like A Box of Chocolates, You Never Know What You're Gonna Get." -Forest Gump)
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To: TheThinker
I don't think it's the fire I think they are starting to raise the flag.
470 posted on 08/29/2009 7:05:45 AM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Life Is Like A Box of Chocolates, You Never Know What You're Gonna Get." -Forest Gump)
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To: netmilsmom
Maybe Ham radio?

Technically, the government (FCC) can shut down the Amateur Radio Service at will simply by ordering the service to cease operation. This is why you have to be licensed, you are technically a government service. Of course, the "Service" was initially set up when threats were assumed to be foreign or natural disasters. I don't think a "Kommunist Presidential Koup" inflicted on the citizenry was in their mindset.

That being said, in a real emergency where the government was out of control and "in the wrong", if you have the equipment, it could be used despite the order. But they could jam communications, and transmitting too much from one location could get you located and shut down by force.

I would imagine, the safest communication would be to transmit from Canada or elsewhere with amateur receivers in the USA. Smuggle messages to the transmitter and everyone listening could hear if it wasn't being jammed.

471 posted on 08/29/2009 7:09:29 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: SteamShovel

>>I would imagine, the safest communication would be to transmit from Canada or elsewhere with amateur receivers in the USA. Smuggle messages to the transmitter and everyone listening could hear if it wasn’t being jammed.<<

You mean from Canada from Ham radio?
I’m really close to Windsor.


472 posted on 08/29/2009 7:20:48 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
I’m really close to Windsor.

You could smuggle messages across the border.....

.....a freedom loving Canadian Amateur Radio Operator could talk to another freedom loving Canadian Amateur Radio Operator so it isn't a "broadcast" (illegal in Amateur Radio, at least in the USA), and the information could be weaved into their discussion like a coded message.

But the Michigan border crossings would likely be shut down in such an "emergency". I was thinking about a country crossing west somewhere, where you could use an ATV or hike across in the wilderness into Saskatchewan for instance.

473 posted on 08/29/2009 7:33:46 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: SkyPilot

LOL!


474 posted on 08/29/2009 7:41:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Obama and his handlers give me nightmares....I think they are very capable of “compromising” the internet .....
475 posted on 08/29/2009 7:47:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: fretzer

Thanks....very interesting....


476 posted on 08/29/2009 7:50:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Brad's Gramma
LOL! A closer in solution might be ....see post #447...I'm going to look at that ...

I had a college buddy that was into HAM big time....but I never did anything with it....but there is a HAM Club around here.

I should go to a meeting.

477 posted on 08/29/2009 7:55:29 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Uncle Ike
Tarp; Porkulus; Cap ‘n’ Tax; Healthcare Reform

You forgot man is destroying the planet, and warming will kill us.

Nearly everything these leftist are using as a crisis to push legislation is a lie.

478 posted on 08/29/2009 7:56:03 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: metmom

Right on, metmom. This danger must not be overlooked. — FRegards ....


479 posted on 08/29/2009 8:27:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

One can heap scorn upon GWB for suggesting wire taps on suspected foreign agents of the State is illegal, but it seems quite permissible in the minds of the left to control the whole Internet to some degree. Like some have raised the question, where is the ACLU on this issue.


480 posted on 08/29/2009 8:27:31 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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