Posted on 08/25/2009 4:45:39 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG
Troops challenging the legitimacy of President Barack Obama as commander-in-chief -- including at least one who is fighting deployment -- should take heed: Gunnery Sgt. Hartman wants to know your "major malfunction."
R. Lee Ermey, the Marine-turned-actor whose role as drill instructor Gunny Hartman in the late Stanley Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket" has all but placed the Vietnam veteran in the pantheon of Marine heroes alongside "Chesty" Puller, Smedley Butler and Dan Daly, isn't buying anyone's political objector status.
"I haven't heard about those guys," Ermey told Military.com during an Aug. 21 interview. "If I do run across them though, trust me, I'll square them away."
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I would hope so. That’s the way I feel about it.
Good, then we actually are arguing for no reason. ;-)
Do you know that for a fact? Has the Gunny ever even looked at it? I doubt it but even if he could quote it Article by Article, if Obama is legal is not the call of someone in uniform. The job is to follow legal orders --- period.
If the One is legally CiC is not a military man's decision. A soldiers oath is to follow legal orders and not to interpret the constitution or investigate the background of civil leaders. If Obama is shown to be inneligable, it would be a political process to address that, but the military should stay the hell away from it.
Barracks lawyers are not a good thing.
Does it bother you that there is no authority to support what you say?
So you think that Nuremberg was a mistake?
Hey buddy,Gunny is a civialian now and has been since he retired out of the Corps back in the seventies.Where does your doubt come from concerning the Gunnys understanding of the Constitution?He was also sworn(as well as those currently serving) to serve and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC.Since the civilian gubmint of which you speak so highly of wont investigate the eligibility maybe the military should.Have a nice evening.
There seems to be evidence that his father was not an American citizen.
Exactly right
Not according to the recent decision by the 10th Circuit.
Well he had all of his operatives file a document on line and claim it was his birth certificate when it was not. There would seem to be something wrong with that.
If he were found to have engaged in a massive fraud about his eligibility by a court would it not upset and even undo much of his agenda?
That’s what the defendants said at Nuremberg.
Some info :
Years of service 1961–1972 medically retired in 1972 for several injuries incurred during his tours.
On May 17, 2002 he received a promotion to Gunnery Sergeant (E-7) from the Commandant of the Marine Corps (later Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR)) United States Marine Corps General James L. Jones, becoming the first retired military member in the history of the United States Marine Corps to be promoted.
Can you be more specific. I don't know which part of my post you are responding to. A link to or the name of 10th Circuit case would be nice as well.
She's a step grandmother sort of, and the one of BHO's grandfather's wives who raised BHO Sr after BHO senior's mother left the old reprobate.
Born in the US and both parents citizens, even if dual? Then you are eligible.
It's the literal truth. She is not Barry's *biological* grandmother, but rather another wife of his biological grandfather. Many Kenyans are Muslim, and their law, even under the British, allow(ed) for mulitiple wives.
However she did raise BHO Sr from an early age when his biological mother left his father.
But I myself was "squared away" by a Marine Major when I was a 2nd Lt, for not saluting him, while under a canopy outside a classroom building. As it turns out, he was wrong, I was right. Not that it helped any at the time. Some customs and courtesies are different between the Army/Air Force and the Navy/Marines. This was one of them, and we were on Wright-Patterson AFB, both attending the School of Systems and Logistics. (I think that's what it was called, it's been almost 36 years.) I don't know, but I suspect he was in the grad school, I was just there for a short course in Reliability Engineering. Saw "American Graffiti" for the first time at the base theater, with a classmate who was just enough older to be the age of the characters, and was from that part of California.
Besides, an E6, Marine or not, would not "square away" an O4, except in private. Bad for good order and discipline otherwise.
My oath had nothing in it about obeying orders. Just "support and defend" and "execute the duties of the office". Neither did that of Major Cook.
Besides, what are legal orders? Who decides?
Since I gave the briefing, back in the day, I'll tell you. The individual does, no one is going to say "this is an illegal order and you should not obey it" and even if someone does say that, you still have to decide if it's true. Of course you'd best be very certain of your conclusion. Because whichever way you decide, you are responsible, under the law, including the UCMJ, for that decision. Obeying an unlawful order is itself unlawful. "I was just following orders" is not an excuse.
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