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Posted on 08/23/2009 10:38:01 PM PDT by Dubya
If Israel bragged about sinking the ship that would be a different issue.
I wonder how many books would sell that describe SPYING as a dangerous and risky business.
I wonder how many books would sell that describe SPYING as a dangerous and risky business.lol... John Pollard would agree.
or attacking
Doesn’t mean a few don’t get away with it.
Many, many years ago I had the opportunity to read the classified Congressional Report on the Attack on the U.S.S.Liberty. I was working in a military library containing all classified documents.
What I am about to say next has nothing to do with the Congressional report but is my own speculation. Something to remember about Israel in the 1960s is how much that small nation relied on Jewish emigrants from around the globe to increase its population. Large ethnic Jewish groups emigrated to Israel, and not all of those ethnic groups, like the Russians, liked or admired the U.S.A.
I’ve always speculated that a rogue element in the Israeli military, very anti-American, possibly Russian, initiated the attack and did so outside of the Israeli command structure. The result was so overwhelmingly embarrassing to the Israeli government that it hasn’t been able to own up to the fact. This is, IMHO, a possibility.
Just a SWAG on my part as I was a mere 14 years old then.
Israel was on the verge of extinction, and was willing to use nuclear retaliation if it became obvious that it was about to be destroyed.
The Liberty, as a spy ship, would have been aware once Israel started to prepare to launch. LBJ may well have prevented the launch if he was aware of it, so the attack on the Liberty would have kept him from knowing what was going on.
I don’t know why LBJ covered it it up, but it make have been his ego not being willing to admit he’d been outflanked. Or maybe he didn’t want to admit that he knew Israel had nukes. Or just maybe, buying Israel’s obvious lie was their reward for not unleashing Armageddon.
I’m still a supporter of Israel, but this has always felt wrong.
That is the most popular explanation.
I thought the most popular explanation was that Israel did not want the United States to know how much territory they were capturing.
How could they possibly hide that, except for very temporarily.
That attack was intentional, too /sarc.
What?!?
Hardly a month goes by without this event being dragged into center stage.
The is a fellow here in Charlotte, NC that was on the tug that towed the Liberty after the attack. The crew was warned that no pictures be taken, but he has some. I saw the pics in 1994 when we worked together.
The theory is that Israel wanted to hide the extent of its incredible acquisition of territory for as long as possible because if this had become known there might have been diplomatic pressure from the US and elsewhere to end the war even sooner.
Of course if Israel was worried about diplomatic pressure, then bombing our ship wouldn't exactly make sense, but not everything makes sense in a war.
IMHO it is not implausible that the military leaders of a country at war would be paranoid about the possible effects from any other country spying on them.
This is just Socialist Obama administration bringing this up again to help their Arab commie buddies. It’s in the past. Forget about it. Obama can “forgive” the Lockerbie bomber so forget about this mistake by the Israelis.
bttt
Here we go again...
Best explanation I've heard.
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The Military Channel last week had a very interesting show about this war.
The top brass of Israel apparently totally undestimated the power and capability of Egypt and even Syria.
The Israeli brass sent their tanks into battle without air support and infantry support.
That arrogance cost a lot Israeli tankers their life and things looked pretty grim along the Nile and back where Israel was fighting Syria during the first few days of the 67 war.
What if the Liberty intercepted some Mutually Assured Destruction scenario with nuclear weapon communications from Israli brass and politicians if the battle hadn’t turned around to Israel’s advantage?
Something happened and the Liberty was attacked and LBJ with his usual disdain of our military people in harms way allowed it to happen with no real consequences. LBJ did it again with the Pueblo in 1968. LBJ seemed to have a grudge against the Navy Security Group, Navy Pilots and Air Force Pilots. He had no problem putting them in harms way and forgetting about them when they were captured due to his meddling in Nam, Laos, Cambodia and ?.
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