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Mexican officials worry about California's plan to free thousands of inmates in budget crunch
Star Tribune/AP ^ | Aug. 21, 2009 | ap

Posted on 08/23/2009 11:25:03 AM PDT by AuntB

Mexican authorities have been sending more alleged criminals north to the U.S. for trial since President Felipe Calderon took office. Now a Mexican official is worried about a flow in the other direction.

Rommel Moreno, attorney general of Baja California state, expressed concern Friday about a plan in California to release thousands of inmates from that U.S. state's overcrowded prisons as a way to help relieve a budget crunch.

Moreno noted many inmates in the California prison system are undocumented migrants, and some could be deported once released.

A statement issued by his office said that "the repatriation of ex-convicts should be orderly and in full agreement with the Mexican government, in order to avoid a rise in crime, mainly in the border states."

"Border cities like Tijuana and Mexicali have enough problems as it with migration, so they can't suffer unilateral repatriations of people who have served a sentence in the United States," the statement said.

"The three levels of government have to plan what we are going to do with all these criminals they are going to 'export,'" Diaz Orozco said. "Many of them are going to be deported to Mexico, just because they declare themselves to be Mexicans."

Tijuana has suffered a wave of violent crime, and state prosecutors reported Friday that two men were shot to death at a pool hall late Thursday.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Mexico; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; california; crimaliens; criminalsfrommexico; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; mexicodemands; mexicoistheenemy
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The irony is so thick, you could wall up the entire border with it!

Mexico WANTS it's criminals here!

" "The three levels of government have to plan what we are going to do with all these criminals they are going to 'export,'" Diaz Orozco said. "Many of them are going to be deported to Mexico, just because they declare themselves to be Mexicans."

1 posted on 08/23/2009 11:25:05 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB
"Border cities like Tijuana and Mexicali have enough problems as it with migration, so they can't suffer unilateral repatriations of people who have served a sentence in the United States," the statement said.

!!!!!!!!!

2 posted on 08/23/2009 11:27:42 AM PDT by elizabethgrace ("It is better to approximately right than precisely wrong." – Fortune Magazine, 1994)
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To: AuntB

Ha ha, “Mexicos chickens...are coming home.......to roost!”


3 posted on 08/23/2009 11:29:05 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: elizabethgrace; gubamyster; SwinneySwitch; La Lydia; brushcop; TerryAnderson; rabscuttle385; ...

Stunning, isn’t it? Mexico’s arrogance is second only to Obama’s.


4 posted on 08/23/2009 11:29:32 AM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: AuntB

We have to ask Mexico permission to send their thugs back to them?? Unreal.


5 posted on 08/23/2009 11:32:59 AM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: AuntB

I agree.


6 posted on 08/23/2009 11:38:13 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: keepitreal

“We have to ask Mexico permission to send their thugs back to them?? Unreal.”

But they won’t let us kill ‘em either! Remember, to keep Mexico happy, will will NOT impose a death sentence on a Mexican murderer, under any circumstance, that’s reserved only for US citizens. Gotta keep Mexico happy! I’m convinced too many of our politicians are owned by the cartels.


7 posted on 08/23/2009 11:40:02 AM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: AuntB

Undocumented MIGRANTS now!! Of course Mexico wants the US to feed, house and clothe its criminals. Why wouldn’t they! And as the left are quite certain that illegals will vote democrat once proclaimed “citizens” by our thug leaders in DC, the more the merrier!! And We the People sit with our THUMBS IN OUR -——, waiting for more and bigger screwings at the hands of the Hussein administration. As lazy, cowardly Americans, we deserve whatever we get!!


8 posted on 08/23/2009 11:41:41 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: AuntB

They are - our drug laws ensure that the cartels have a lot of money to bribe our politicians with.


9 posted on 08/23/2009 11:47:24 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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There’s no other explanation, patton. This pandering by our politicians to Mexico and it’s criminal element stinks of corruption.


10 posted on 08/23/2009 11:50:05 AM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: AuntB; FlyingEagle; Playa Pete; NorwegianViking; Texas resident; GulfBreeze; rellimpank; ...

Mexican hypocricy.

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


11 posted on 08/23/2009 12:40:54 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (NO PISE EN MI')
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To: AuntB

So just how far along are we on the fence? Does construction continue?


12 posted on 08/23/2009 12:43:53 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: AuntB

Hey Mexico: Reap what you sow, MOFOs!


13 posted on 08/23/2009 12:55:12 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: AuntB

More proof that Mexico is nothing more than a Third World Porta Potty for North America

It is obvious that Mexico is sending the US their criminals, and do not want them back.

Its time to shut down the border, deport all illegals, and go brutal on criminal illegal aliens. I am tired of the condescending tone from the hell hole known as Mexico


14 posted on 08/23/2009 1:08:03 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal alien amnesty is anti-American bigotry)
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To: AuntB
My plan is best. Put them all in one large prison, put very well armed guards on the outside of the prison walls.

Let's be a little humane and air drop them some food from time to time but not quite enough for everybody.

Air drop enough small arms and ammo for all the prisoners and wait.

My plan isn't perfect but I'm still working on it.

15 posted on 08/23/2009 1:40:58 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( Selah.)
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To: wolfcreek

It never dawned on me that CA could take a convicted criminal (kept in jail at great cost per year), release and deport them to avoid the incarceration costs. And the joke is that Mexico, the land that spawned them, does not want them back.


16 posted on 08/23/2009 2:09:42 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: AuntB

Unbelievable!!


17 posted on 08/23/2009 2:16:55 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“It is obvious that Mexico is sending the US their criminals, and do not want them back.”

UFC, now we’ve got the Mexican cartels fighting each other over territory on USA public lands...it’s likely they’ve burned more than the 85,000 acres last week in California. Each of these pot farms now have 50 well armed ‘guards’. With the economy taking a dive, you can bet those out of work ‘hard working immigrants’ will be joining them.

Think of it....legions of foreign national organized crime, having a turf war in the USA over growing crops on OUR land!
Boggles the mind!

From the US Border Patrol:

What is an Army?

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=What+is+an+army%3F

[snip]The United States of America spent over forty years defending itself against a terrible foe. That foe was the Soviet Union.

The United States built 70,000 nuclear weapons of 65 different types to protect ourselves from a Soviet army of two million men. That two million man army was composed of Christians (the govenment leaders were definately not Christian) who were responsible for fine art, fine music, the first man in space and rockets to the moon.

What makes up an army? An army is made of men between the age of 15 and 35.

What comes across our border by the millions each year? Men between the ages of 15 and 35.

In all of the 70 years of the Soviet Union — including the years of the proxy war of Vietnam.— they killed fewer Americans in total than Mexican Illegal Aliens do inside this country in a single year.


18 posted on 08/23/2009 3:04:20 PM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: Graybeard58; blackie; All

This just forwarded by NAFBPO. Interesting.....Mexico is going to fall apart....is that what Leahy is getting primed for....for us to go down there and ‘fix it’...I’m afraid this mess is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

August 21, 2009 http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.4070/pub_detail.asp
Human Rights and the Mexican Drug War

Douglas Farah
There is little question that fighting drug traffickers’ efforts to take over the state or render it an effectively “ungoverned space” needs not only firepower but the support of the civilian population. The Mexican government of Felipe Calderón finds itself in that extremely difficult and dangerous nether world between needing to use the military in a war the military is not equipped to fight and not totally alienating the civilian population.

This New York Times story on the State Department’s report makes the point. Complaints of human rights abuses have jumped since the military entered the fray. It is a force that is neither trained nor interested in going after drug traffickers.

While the State Department cited several examples of progress, it was hardly a glowing endorsement. And a key Democratic senator said the report failed to adequately address the concerns about impunity within the Mexican military that led him to threaten to hold up millions of dollars in United States assistance.

“It is well known that the military justice system is manifestly ineffective,” said a statement issued Tuesday by Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, chairman of the Senate appropriations subcommittee on foreign operations, which must approve disbursement of the Merida assistance. “And it is apparent that neither the Mexican government nor the State Department has treated human rights abuses by the military, which is engaging in an internal police function it is ill suited for, as a priority.”

As in Afghanistan
, Iraq, El Salvador and every other counterinsurgency effort (and it would be a mistake to think Mexico is facing anything less than a loose confederation of insurgent forces, each intent on controlling geographic territory to carry out its criminal activity) has shown, it is a tragic and costly mistake to think that the best way to gather information is to torture or execute the civilian population (or the enemy).

Every act of torture and murder by government forces moves an entire family to the side of the enemy who will then do everything possible to get revenge. While often viewed as the most expeditious way to acquire information or the result of sloppy intelligence, planning or execution, the abuses do far more damage than any intelligence they may produce.

This makes human rights behavior by government forces a matter of national security, not just a moral imperative. To move forward Mexico must do away with the opaque nature of the military tribunals, be willing to name names and publicly punish offenders. Anything less does the nation great harm.

There is an added complication that I witnessed in El Salvador and Colombia that I am sure is at play here. There are certainly serious abuses that go unpunished. There are also legions of people paid by the cartels to file, on top of that, endless streams of frivolous complaints that both inflate the number and make it much more difficult to investigate the real abuses.

After many years, the Colombian police and military still continue to carry out abuses, although the institutionalization of the abuses has been largely broken. The strongest evidence of the changing nature of the relationship between civilians and the police and military there is the huge volume of intelligence now generated by people who trust the government forces enough to pass on the information.

The government forces are often (certainly not always) viewed as less of a threat to the civilians than the FARC or other criminal organizations. While not a ringing endorsement, it is a long way from the days when the military could gather almost no intelligence at all.

Mexican officials are embarking on a long and slippery road. The military as an institution is fighting for something it does not necessarily believe in, which is a bad place from which to start. While it started out as one of Mexico’s most trusted institutions, that trust is battered with every abuse committed.

Every loss there is a victory for the narcos and their desire to paint themselves as the protectors of the people. This is particularly true of groups like La Familia Michoacana, which fashions itself as a religious/civic organization, doing the work of both the Lord and the people.

Plan Merida cannot succeed without the goodwill of the Mexican people in the areas most affected. If that is impossible, neutrality has to be the minimum goal. That is a war that is far more difficult to wage than shooting war, but ultimately much more important.

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Douglas Farah is an award-winning investigative journalist and Senior Fellow in Financial Investigations and Transparency at the International Assessment and StrategyCenter. E-mail him at


19 posted on 08/23/2009 3:13:06 PM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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Forwarded by NAFBPO

Border Patrol agents arrest 2 alleged sex offenders

Posted: Aug 20, 2009 01:51 PM

http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=10965263&nav=AbC0

EL PASO, Texas — Border Patrol agents from El Paso and Las Cruces arrested two alleged sex offenders Wednesday, Border Patrol officials said.

In the first arrest, agents spotted a man running toward the U.S.-Mexico border toward UTEP.

After a brief pursuit on foot, agents took a 23-year-old man from Mexico into custody and found he had outstanding warrants from Kansas. The warrants charged him with aggravated indecent liberties with a child, Border Patrol officials said. The man is being extradited to Kansas. His identity was not released.

The second arrest came at the Border Patrol I-10 checkpoint near Las Cruces. During a routine inspection of outbound buses, agents found a man from Vietnam with no legal documents to be in the U.S.

The suspect was taken into a processing area, where a criminal and immigration background check was conducted.

The agents identified the man as a Vietnamese citizen whose criminal history includes indecency with a child, battery and assault with attempt to rape. He had legally entered the U.S., but his legal permanent status was revoked due to his alleged crimes, officials said.

The man, whose identity was not released, was ordered to be returned to Vietnam.

by ABC-7 Web Producer Annette Arrigucci


20 posted on 08/23/2009 3:15:52 PM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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