Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

What's with Obama's Obsession: Body Parts?
Townhall ^ | 8/23/09 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 08/23/2009 10:06:14 AM PDT by wagglebee

President Barack Obama has taken to a unique and possibly quite macabre strategy into the August recess. In speech after speech on the need for the federalizing control of a national health care system President Obama has taken to insulting the wrong people--physicians--but beyond that he has turned them into orated illustrations of terror. I believe in doing so he is demonstrating an unusual degree of deception to which he is willing to stoop, all for the cause of saying he did "something" about health care.

Roughly one month ago President Obama stated in a press conference from the White House, "So if you come in, and you've got a bad sore throat, or your child has a bad sore throat, or has repeated sore throats. The doctor may look at the reimbursement system, and say to himself, 'You know what, I make a heck of a lot more money if I take this kid's tonsils out.' Now that may be the right thing to do but I'd rather have that doctor making those decisions, just based on whether you really need your kids tonsils out, or whether it make just make more sense just to huh... change... huh... maybe they have allergies, maybe they have something else that would make a difference."

In one swipe he slanders thousands of the very best children's doctors and ears, nose, and throat specialists across the board. He does so with an assumption that those who practice medicine are driven by greed, and not the welfare of their patients. Yet let me ask you this, how many children's doctors do you know, or have you had for your family? In many cases across America one doctor has been the family pediatrician for two to three generations of children, and extended family, and friends of that family. In all honesty do you think such a reality would exist, if they were treating kids like clunkers that can be cashed in for parts?

Roughly two weeks ago President Obama at a townhall meeting said,

"Let's take the example of something like diabetes, one of uh... A disease that's sky-rocketing, partly because of huh... obesity. Partly because it is not treated... huh... as effectively... as it could be. Right now if we paid a family... If a family care physician, works with his or her patient, to help them lose weight, modify diet, monitors whether they are taking their medication in a timely fashion. They might get reimbursed a pittance. But if that same diabetic ends up getting their foot amputated, that's $30,000, $40,000, $50,000, immediately the surgeon is reimbursed."

There he was again with the profit motive. Only this time he was actually making the argument that the doctor would be so malevolent as to allow the diabetic in question to purposefully worsen the condition, just to cash in. I cannot repeat this strongly enough--his willingness to view doctors with such contempt and disrespect sickens me, as it should every medical practitioner in the nation. As best as I can tell there is no other industry that swears to the ideals of such a lofty vision as is found in the Hippocratic Oath. Yet in allegiance to such an oath is something lost on the man who placed his hand on a Bible and took one to uphold our liberties, freedoms, and responsibilities as outlined in the Constitution.

On this issue he was also factually wrong. And given the extreme amount of detail that goes into any Presidential proclamation, a safe wager would be to say, that he knew he was not speaking the truth. The matter of monetary reimbursement was publicly stated by the American Medical Association within 24 hours. No doctor ever receives even a $1000 for the amputation of a foot. They also do not receive it "immediately." The facts according to the AMA are that reimbursement for amputations are slow in coming and average between $500-$700.

And then there was of course his grandmother, who he implied during the campaign was a racist, whose very hip replacement surgery--fully covered by her own insurance plan--he questioned as to whether it was necessary or not, because of her pre-existing condition:

“I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost,” Obama said in the interview. “I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.” Obama said, “You just get into some very difficult moral issues when considering whether to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill. That’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues.”

So by his own thinking, and now admission, had it been left to a public option or single-payer Government-run plan, there is a strong possibility she would have been denied coverage for her hip replacement because of her pre-existing condition.

But wasn't that one of the massively huge problems his public option plan was supposed to prevent?

So is everyone else's granny supposed to die in misery with a crumbling, dysfunctional hip, just because they are sick with something else?

Is this the utopia that Obama's health care plan is supposed to usher in?

Does anyone besides me feel the least bit queasy that in order to convince us the President has to resort to illustrations of unnecessary amputations in order to show us the rightness of the need?

Does his confusion between $500 and $50,000 cause anyone else who is struggling with all their might to pay their bills to shudder at his clarity on the numbers in a system he wants to spend $3,000,000,000,000 on?

These are important questions, and I desperately hope that while he's living it up on Martha's Vineyard this week that he works in a little time to consider them, you know... In between the wine and cheese events...



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhohealthcare; demonazis; moralabsolutes; obamacare; odeath; ohno; omangla; onazis; osick; prolife
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-52 next last
To: Drill Thrawl
It's a muslim thing. They are fascinated with cutting off body part.

That is true. Also, as another freeper pointed out to me a while back (sorry, can't remember who) his 46 yo alcoholic father BO Sr. was in a car accident in 1982 which led to both of his legs being amputated.

POTUS has more back 'issues' than National Geographic does.

21 posted on 08/23/2009 11:35:48 AM PDT by leilani
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

“I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.” Obama said,

This is really a telling line. For his own grandmother, or another rich person’s grandmother, they’ll get that new hip. But for the peons, they’ll get the cheaper painkiller.

Except maybe his grandma would have been out of luck, had she needed to rely on her grandson. He’s letting his own aunt live on the dole (ILLEGALLY!) and he didn’t even go to this same grandma’s memorial service.

Quite the strange duck America has placed in charge. No wonder they are frightened now.


22 posted on 08/23/2009 12:12:17 PM PDT by jocon307
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jocon307

His own BROTHER is living in a hut on two dollars a month, Zero spends more on a room service meal than his brother will earn in a LIFETIME.


23 posted on 08/23/2009 12:17:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
No doctor ever receives even a $1000 for the amputation of a foot. They also do not receive it "immediately." The facts according to the AMA are that reimbursement for amputations are slow in coming and average between $500-$700.

Excellent point. I think those are maybe Veteran or Medicare or Medicaid figures, the low ones above.

I am looking at a bill for surgery right now. The doctor billed 29,000 and some change, and was paid by Medicare 2,486.76.

Government is always complaining about doctors and fraud, but why is Medicare about 29 billion in debt?

My guess is government fraud and high costs for the thousands of employees that administer these programs and the tons of red tape.

It's always been my contention that the government should rout out the fraud and excesses of government bureaucracy and fix Medicare, etc before they instigate another program (Universal health care) to suck up all our tax money.

Obama's admitting that the Post Office is run poorly by the government is a good example.

They steal all the money paid into SS, they should fix that.

If Uni Death Care passes, it will be run as well as the USPS and Cash for Clunkers.

We don't need more of that.

24 posted on 08/23/2009 12:33:23 PM PDT by Syncro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jocon307
“I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.” Obama said

Oh yea, right Barry.

He despised his racist White grandmother.

Just before the election, he visited Hawaii with his family.

His grandmother lives there.

He didn't even let his kids visit their aging grandmother.

He did though.

I wonder what he signed, she died shortly thereafter.

Another point is that under the new health bills if a doctor takes money from gov programs, they CANNOT do operations etc for people with the money to pay full price in cash.

And even if they don't take gov money, I think doing operations for people that can pay the full price will be a no-no too.

25 posted on 08/23/2009 12:39:33 PM PDT by Syncro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Syncro

“And even if they don’t take gov money, I think doing operations for people that can pay the full price will be a no-no too.”

That was certainly part of Hillary’s plan. And it was Betsy McCaughy Ross who sunk that one, by actually READING it and revealing that they were going to PUT PEOPLE IN PRISON for obtaining (or attempting to obtain I reckon) private health care.

That is how it is in Canada, and my understanding is that there is a lot of bribery, etc. that goes on so the well-heeled get to the front of the line.

Maybe somebody wants to refute or confirm that, but that is what I have heard.


26 posted on 08/23/2009 12:56:53 PM PDT by jocon307
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

I’m having trouble reading through this one. The
examples are horrendous, and libellous as well.
The primary physician/endocrinologist is the MD
who treats diabetics. Not surgeons. No one, repeat
no one makes that kind of calculation, even subconsciously.


27 posted on 08/23/2009 1:50:24 PM PDT by cycjec
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cycjec
No one, repeat no one makes that kind of calculation, even subconsciously.

I think Zero is projecting.

However, I'm sure it never occurred to my GP to wait for me to need my arm amputated, instead of giving me antibiotics for my infected cat bite. My doctor is a nice woman.

28 posted on 08/23/2009 2:14:27 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
It's very clear that Zero and his ilk are obsessed with death and place no value on human life.

******************

Indeed. His inability to imagine that others might function in a moral way is an indication of his own lack of moral understanding. Because he does not experience it, he cannot imagine it being a motivating force in others. He is a man without a conscience.

29 posted on 08/23/2009 2:29:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

“It’s very clear that Zero and his ilk are obsessed with death and place no value on human life.”

All leftist thought, from the limousine liberalism of a George Clooney to the mass murders of Mao, Stalin, or Pol Pot, is of and from Satan. It is a contaminant in the human cognosphere, not a natural component of it.

The further down that road you go, the closer to Satan you get, and Satan loves death.


30 posted on 08/23/2009 2:58:40 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dsc

Excellent post. Help yourself to a Guinness!


31 posted on 08/23/2009 3:07:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: jocon307

I do remember that part of HillaryCare. Has anyone
researched the current proposals on that?
The confusion and incoherence BHO evinces might
well do a lot towards improving (not simply changing)
ppls’ thoughts on him.


32 posted on 08/23/2009 3:18:21 PM PDT by cycjec
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick

“Help yourself to a Guinness!”

Then kyew, then kyew. Doing a translation job right now, but when I finish, I may wash down my pain killers with half a glass of wine.


33 posted on 08/23/2009 3:28:35 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: boop; CholeraJoe; hocndoc; therut; maica

ping


34 posted on 08/23/2009 3:50:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dsc

Good luck! And at least make it good wine, since you’re only having a little ;-).

I’ll make whatever requires the painkillers my prayer intention for tonight, when I’m up multiple occasions with Frank, the Ravenous Maw.


35 posted on 08/23/2009 3:51:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick

LOL!


36 posted on 08/23/2009 3:52:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: trisham

Doubled his weight (8 to 16 lbs.) in 12 weeks. He’ll probably hit 20 before he’s able to sit up and eat some Real Food.


37 posted on 08/23/2009 3:53:52 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick
Wow. He's going to be a big boy. Our niece's "new" baby:


38 posted on 08/23/2009 3:58:20 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Tax-chick

“my prayer intention”

Why, thank you.

(Don’t be surprised if God gives you a “Harumph.”)


39 posted on 08/23/2009 4:05:57 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: trisham

Awww! He doesn’t look a bit like my boys. Frank can’t lift his head yet. When I put him on his stomach, he just puts his fingers in his mouth and goes to sleep.


40 posted on 08/23/2009 4:52:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you've ever discovered your cow eating a guest in the barn, you'll understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-52 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson