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LAO SOLDIERS DECAPITATE TWO-MONTH-OLD GIRL AHEAD OF SENATOR WEBB'S VISIT
PERSECUTION.org - INTERNATIONAL CHRISTIAN CONCERN ^ | August 20, 2009 | n/a

Posted on 08/23/2009 2:15:28 AM PDT by Cindy

LAOS - "LAO SOLDIERS DECAPITATE TWO-MONTH-OLD GIRL AHEAD OF SENATOR WEBB'S VISIT Infant used as target practice during military attacks that leave 26 civilians dead."

August 20, 2009

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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To: politicalmerc

“I have lived in Asia and very much enjoy Asians and their Asian Culture.”

By culture if you mean respect for elders and guests, that’s universal.

I get the gist of you cultural reference.

But, really, the cultures are very, very different and equating a Chinese culture with Thai or Japanese is going to get you in trouble over there.

Japanese think the Chinese are impossibly dirty people and the Chinese really do hate the Japanese and have not forgotten WWII.

And yes, cruelty is not simply a cultural phenomenon, but it is the human condition.

We are all beasts carefully hiding under these laws we have created to manage our natures.


41 posted on 08/23/2009 6:19:37 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Good point that should be always kept in mind.

Incidentally, I really, really, really liked your photo gallery on your about page ......... especially the Bond girl, Eva Green!

42 posted on 08/23/2009 6:23:14 AM PDT by Old Badger (After this sorry election, boy do opportunities abound!)
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To: OpusatFR

I totally agree with you.


43 posted on 08/23/2009 6:27:24 AM PDT by politicalmerc (If Birthers are so silly, then why not show the BC and put them to shame?)
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To: Cindy

Virginia must be so very proud of Senator Webb......


44 posted on 08/23/2009 6:34:20 AM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
“Asian” isn’t a culture, it’s a continent.

Spot on! Just as there are myriads of cultures in Europe, there are myriads of cultures in Asia...from work ethic, and Eastern mysticism, to Yin and Yang and Feng Shui! Western secular education doesn't lend itself to understanding culture...we seem to get hung up on the 'cult' part.

45 posted on 08/23/2009 6:50:31 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: OpusatFR; politicalmerc

We don’t usually think of Sicilians and Swedes as sharing the same culture, since they are very different. However, all European cultures, being based on the Christian religion and the ancient classical heritage, have a great deal in common.

Many “Asian” cultures, by which I assume PM really means “East Asian” cultures, are much more different from each other than any two European cultures.

Their cultures just look similar to us, because what we focus on is their common difference from ourselves.


46 posted on 08/23/2009 7:28:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Cindy
See also here
47 posted on 08/23/2009 8:06:28 AM PDT by ch.man
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To: politicalmerc
Did I say that? Or is that where you are taking my statement. I made a comment that something about the Asian culture makes for particular broad based cruelty

You make the statement that Asians have a culture that is more cruel than others. When others point out the atrocities committed by other races, you insist that the Asians are worse. Yet, you don't provide any explanation or analysis for your belief. If you are going to assert a belief perhaps you can explain it more. Either you have a rational basis for your opinion or you might just be a bigot.

48 posted on 08/23/2009 8:11:46 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Sherman Logan
We don’t usually think of Sicilians and Swedes as sharing the same culture, since they are very different. However, all European cultures, being based on the Christian religion and the ancient classical heritage, have a great deal in common.

How were the Vikings tied to "ancient classical heritage?" Christianity came late to them.

Why don't the Afghans share European culture. After all Alexander brought Greek "ancient classical traditions" to them?

After the fall of Rome, Europe was overrun by Asians bringing new ethnicity and culture to the continent.

The roots of common European culture lie more in the thinking starting in the Renaissance than that from Greek and Roman culture. This was the beginning of the modern secular order that began to erode the power of absolute monarchs and the Church and began to promote the idea of the individual. It took several hundred more years to develop into democracies across Europe.

49 posted on 08/23/2009 8:38:29 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: fieldmarshaldj
" A lot of this can be viewed through the prism of tribal hatreds, and those are as old as the human race."

I think that is a well-put point. But, I do think that there's some truth in the belief that generally speaking, eastern cultures and specifically Asian cultures don't place as much value on the individual life as western cultures do.

Much of it has to do with the philosophies that the cultures are built upon. Individual liberty is an ideal that flows from Greek and Roman statesmen and philosophers. We really don't see a similar or as pronounced equivalent in any of the Asian cultures, which are much more feudally based.

I'm not a theologian - by any stretch - by there's also a marked difference in the three respective leading religions in both cultures - with Christianity in the west and Islam and Buddhism in the east. Christianity's foundational premise is about individual salvation through the willing acceptance of Jesus as the Christ.

Islam, on the other hand, is completely and entirely about submission to Mohamed and Allah, quite different. Also, Buddhism is more collective in nature. It's about finding "harmony" in nature, about blending in with everyone and everything around you. It's primacy is the collective balance of nature over individual achievement or existence.

In short, western civilization celebrates the individual and the inherent (some say God-given) primacy of individual life and liberty. Eastern cultures tend to do the exact opposite - the collective supersedes the individual.

50 posted on 08/23/2009 8:47:15 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: politicalmerc
I just wonder why it seems to exist. I could be wrong, I’m certainly not being dogmatic about it.

I believe what you are responding to is a cultural/religious issue. The sanctity of life and the importance of the individual as a child of God is a concept which gained influence through the JudeoChristian ethic and spread by Christian missionaries and teachers. Nothing like it in Islam or the oceanic spiritual philosophies of the Orient.

Christendom has had no lack of examples which reflect failure to live up to the creed, but the creed is there; and the fact is that reverence for individual human life is not universal.

51 posted on 08/23/2009 8:53:06 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Sherman Logan

Sherman?


52 posted on 08/23/2009 8:56:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: politicalmerc
right now it appears some Asians are more cruel as are many Negroid African cultures compared to more Western cultures

even some high Asian cultures like Japan showed not long ago their capacity for savagery

yet at that same time a very high Western culture was pretty savage too to those it deemed a threat to their goal and a medium "White" culture went savage for 75 years till Magnus drove a stake through it

this is stuff is hard to peg but yes the more primitive the culture the more likely to go violent and if they have access to modern weaponry or nicer edged weapons than the stone or bronze aged stuff they had only recently then there you go...it ups the ante

human have to learn to behave with one another, it's the old struggle of good versus evil inside all of us

i for one think Christianity helped but not without some bumpy spots but overall it has smoothed out folks where it existed...Islam has done just the opposite.

53 posted on 08/23/2009 9:05:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (Kite Runner....good movie.)
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To: Cindy

I can’t take it anymore.


54 posted on 08/23/2009 9:10:15 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I have a far more rational basis for my theory than you do your criticism because you still haven't stepped back from your knee-jerk racism label long enough to see what I'm talking about.

First, I'm not making a statement about how good or bad the people in the region are. I was posing a question: Why does cruelty seem to be more generally acceptable in the area. You might possibly simply say: "It's not." That may be the answer, I'm just looking at the following and posing the question. If you can back off your knee-jerk reactions and assumptions for just a moment and stop putting words in my simple question you MIGHT see something in it. Suicide is an accepted way of life in many Asian countries. Suicide soldiers (not just in Japan) are revered as heroes. Suicide for honor is respected as honorable. As far as I know China has the only state MANDATED abortion policy in the world.

The simple answer may be that Asian CULTURE generally values the whole over the individual. Sacrificing an individual apparently is not as big a deal as it would be say here.

When is the last time you saw a business executive commit suicide over honor and be lauded for it in the west? When have you seen American protesters setting themselves on fire?

I realize I changed the argument a little by going from cruelty to valuing human life. But they MAY be related.

I admire Asian culture(s)(all of the permutations) a great deal. So it's rather ironic that I would be attacked as a RACIST for a simple statement.

I doubt you need much exercise because you seem to get plenty of exercise by jumping to conclusions.

55 posted on 08/23/2009 9:51:52 AM PDT by politicalmerc (If Birthers are so silly, then why not show the BC and put them to shame?)
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To: OldDeckHand
Individual liberty is an ideal that flows from Greek and Roman statesmen and philosophers.

Perhaps they first articulated it. Sure didn't do a very good job of hanging onto it, though!

BTW, their individual liberty was always premised on the existence of a large slave class allowing them the leisure to exercise their personal liberty and think fine thoughts.

The liberty of the America Revolution is actually based more directly on Christian theology, which states that all men are children of God and therefore in some ultimate sense equal. This is a much more solid foundation for liberty than the rather selfish desires of classical aristocrats. This idea of human equality never crossed the classical mind, or indeed that of any other human society.

56 posted on 08/23/2009 10:45:07 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: driftdiver

What???


57 posted on 08/23/2009 10:47:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sherman Logan

Shermans March to the Sea.

From Atlanta to Savannah burning and killing pretty much everything in his path.


58 posted on 08/23/2009 11:08:07 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

It’s also not a particularly uncommon first name.

I chose Sherman Logan as particularly obscure literary reference.

No reference to the great General Sherman was intended.

It is odd that he is remembered for his march across GA. While everybody at the time agreed he was much harsher during his march across SC, everyone has forgotten about it.


59 posted on 08/23/2009 11:11:42 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sherman Logan

I just picked the more common reference. it was not a reference to you.

Cruelty is common throughout history. Sometimes it is the result of a psychotic and sometimes from people who have become numb to the horror.

The organized version lead by a psychotic leader seems the worst in my opinion.


60 posted on 08/23/2009 11:14:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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