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To: Bernard Marx

“If the Feds (ably assisted by Democrat Gov. Gray Davis) had allowed Prop 187 to stand, the flow of illegals would have been stemmed.”

There were some other interesting GOP players in the destruction of Prop. 187...Grover Norquist and Stephen Moore & other ‘good’ republicans.
Norquist was the author of Bush’s amnesty. We’ve got traitors in the GOP to clean out before we can even think about the democrats.

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Working closely with Stephen Moore of the Cato Institute, Cesar Conda (former domestic advisor to Dick Cheney) circulated a statement against Prop. 187 of California in the nineties.
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=grover+norquist

“The letters were mainly the work of Cato’s Anderson and Paul Ryan, Brownback’s legislative director, whose ties to the pro-immigration mafia ran deep. A protégé of Conda and an ally of Swartz, Ryan was the staffer who had aided Jack Kemp and William Bennett in their crusade against Proposition 187.....
From the Republican side, the cavalry arrived courtesy of Grover Norquist, who had proved to be one of Swartz’s most significant conduits to the activist right.

Almost from the start, Norquist (who was on Microsoft’s payroll) had been trying to convince the Christian Coalition’s Ralph Reed that being pro family meant being against cuts in family immigration, and that Reed should therefore support split-the-bill. Reed had resisted, but shortly before the vote, at a dinner with Gingrich and Norquist, the Speaker had indicated that he was in favor of splitting the bill.”

http://www.adti.net/new_zuberi_uploaded/imm/wired_heilemann_08_04_1996.htm


35 posted on 08/22/2009 12:44:53 PM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: AuntB
Grover Norquist and Stephen Moore & other ‘good’ republicans.

Not so. They are good Libertarians who believe in the "sanctity" of markets, not borders, as do many Libertarian RINOs and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Just because conservatives and the Libertarians at the WSJ editorial page may have some things in common, Libertarians are NOT conservatives. Failure to understand that causes conservatives to frequently misplace their trust. CATO is pure Libertarian and takes many positions completely at odds with conservatives (at least as I define the term).

Many neocons like Bennett and the late Jack Kemp also fit into the Libertarian mold on immigration and a few other issues. There are many who have betrayed American principles through allowing almost unchecked illegal immigration. But if you've read the whole thread you'll remember my posts were aimed at placing most of the blame at the Federal level, not at Californians. All the people you mention are definitely Federal-level players.

42 posted on 08/22/2009 2:57:28 PM PDT by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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