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To: SoConPubbie
If there is no Freedom from Sin, why would Jesus have come to go to Calvary, it would have been a symbolic gesture at best of no real value.

We will not have PERFECT freedom from sin until we cross the great divide. That is the reality. Until then, sin will strike ANYONE, anytime at any moment.

Therefore, I humbly submit that we not ostracize a person from being a clergy when we know of no outward sexual sin he has committed. We can only know what is in his heart when he OUTWARDLY commits something wrong. Other than that, we can do nothing but trust him ( and verify if needed ).
63 posted on 08/25/2009 6:29:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
We will not have PERFECT freedom from sin until we cross the great divide. That is the reality. Until then, sin will strike ANYONE, anytime at any moment.

You are living below the privileges that Christ died to give you, my friend.

Sin only has power over those who refuse to submit their wills to God and refuse to believe in the power and the truth of the Gospel.

There is a higher plain available to you my friend and Jesus stands willing and ready to lift you up to that plain.

Furthermore, why would Jesus command us "To be Holy as I am Holy" if he had not provided a manner in which to attain this state?

God is a loving, compassionate and faithful God. He does not command us to do things that with his help we are unable to do.
64 posted on 08/25/2009 6:33:55 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SeekAndFind
Therefore, I humbly submit that we not ostracize a person from being a clergy when we know of no outward sexual sin he has committed. We can only know what is in his heart when he OUTWARDLY commits something wrong. Other than that, we can do nothing but trust him ( and verify if needed ).

My friend, you still are not getting it. We are not talking about saved and up-to-date people in this scenario, we are talking about people who still consider themselves homosexuals, abstinate or not, they consider themselves homosexuals.

A condition defined by desire that God calls an abomination and sin.

Therefore, they are not saved, and they are not fit for leadership positions in the church.

I've exhausted this issue, and it appears that you are stubbornly going to hold to a position that is not scriptural and does not please God.

May God have mercy on you and provide you with the insight you seem to be sorely lacking on this point.

Take care Brother.

May God bless you with enlightenment on this issue.


65 posted on 08/25/2009 6:39:50 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SeekAndFind
Would you say that a person whose heart and mindset is either actively or passively in support of homosexuality is in need of repentance?

Do you think it is tolerable for any Christian to be actively or passively in support of the homosexual lifestyle or the homosexual movement?

In this day of the promotion of sexual perversion, should a Christian be actively opposed to the the modern movement to promote the sin of homosexuality?

Is the abomination of homosexuality something that should be kept on the back burner in someone's heart or should it be completely forsaken and opposed as a gross and disgusting abomination?

76 posted on 08/25/2009 7:08:54 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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