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Therefore, I humbly submit that we not ostracize a person from being a clergy when we know of no outward sexual sin he has committed. We can only know what is in his heart when he OUTWARDLY commits something wrong. Other than that, we can do nothing but trust him ( and verify if needed ).

My friend, you still are not getting it. We are not talking about saved and up-to-date people in this scenario, we are talking about people who still consider themselves homosexuals, abstinate or not, they consider themselves homosexuals.

A condition defined by desire that God calls an abomination and sin.

Therefore, they are not saved, and they are not fit for leadership positions in the church.

I've exhausted this issue, and it appears that you are stubbornly going to hold to a position that is not scriptural and does not please God.

May God have mercy on you and provide you with the insight you seem to be sorely lacking on this point.

Take care Brother.

May God bless you with enlightenment on this issue.

A condition defined by desire that God calls an abomination and sin.

You seem to be focus on one form of sin and ignoring OTHER forms of sins that are just as abominable to God. Love of money, pride, jealousy, self-rigtheousness etc.

Again, let me re-iterate, I agree with scripture that homosexuality is an abomination. But hey, what about other sins ? It seems to me that for you, when one struggles with homosexual urges ( but asks God to help him control it and overcome it ), it is NOT OK, but on the other hand, when a person struggles with other forms, we can conveniently overlook them.

it appears that you are stubbornly going to hold to a position that is not scriptural and does not please God.

I am holding to a position that I don't think is unscriptural and I don't think you have adequately answered it at all. I am not even certain that your overlooking other forms of sins to focus on homosexuality is itself pleasing to God.

May God have mercy on you and provide you with the insight you seem to be sorely lacking on this point.

You wish for me, I return to you as well.