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The Dark Side of Health Care on Native American Reservations
AP Obama via Finding Dulcinea ^ | June 16th | Cara McDonough

Posted on 08/21/2009 5:09:14 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

A “Broken” Health Care System for Native Americans On paper, the situation sounds good: Based on a 1787 agreement between tribes and the United States government, the U.S. has an obligation to provide American Indians with free health care on reservations.

But that’s not how it works, reports the Associated Press. Roughly one-third more is spent per capita on health care for felons in federal prison, according to 2005 data referenced by the AP. The system’s ineffectiveness has yielded a common refrain on reservations of “don’t get sick after June,” because that‘s when federal funds run out.

(Excerpt) Read more at findingdulcinea.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: americanindians; healthcare; ihs; killthebill; obamacare; socializedmedicine
IHS is just like NHS.

It's a rationing nightmare. Native american indians do not deserve this. The government should give them their freedom and power back.

(yes, I saw the 1787 line, I have little doubt that the government has done changes and horrible 'tweaks' to the original agreement)

1 posted on 08/21/2009 5:09:15 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: socialismisinsidious

bump


2 posted on 08/21/2009 5:09:34 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Moveon.AARP is really taking it in the shorts over Obamacare !)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

On the brighter side, if nationalized health care does get rammed through, what more logical place to maintain bastions of private health care than on Indian reservations? I mean, we and the Canadians will have to go somewhere to get our lives saved, won’t we?


3 posted on 08/21/2009 5:19:05 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The Chickasaws here in Oklahoma have a great healthcare delivery system for their tribal members. They have Clinics around the Chickasaw territory and run the hospital in Ada that takes care of everyone. They are very much into quality healthcare for their tribal members.


4 posted on 08/21/2009 5:42:53 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The stats on health care on the reservations are bad because the residents won’t use the “white man’s clinic”. Doesn’t really matter how good or bad the clinics are, getting the patients to use the clinics is the problem.


5 posted on 08/21/2009 6:06:19 PM PDT by STYRO (You don't have to obey anyone who doesn't practice what they preach.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Hmmm. 1787 would be under the Articles of Confederation.
6 posted on 08/21/2009 6:11:14 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Laws of Nature and Nature's God - The bedrock of our unalienable rights.)
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To: PhiKapMom
The Chickasaws here in Oklahoma have a great healthcare delivery system for their tribal members.

My wife's family has had similar experience with the Seminole tribe.

For those who may not be familiar, PKM and I aren't referring to government-delivered health care on reservations. Instead, it's tribal-delivered health care with no reservation involved.

7 posted on 08/21/2009 6:22:29 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: PhiKapMom
Being part Indian...and in the Health Care field...I could tell you stories.

Some positive, some negative.......

Knowing the VA system and the Indian system....the Indian system is better...but it's still heavy funded by the Fed's.

And the Indian system is prone to fraud, and waste, and nepotism.....too. Just like the VA system.....

Employee's get entrenched...and you can't get rid of them. No matter if they really suck....As they are a relative of the Chief...or a Headman...So they stay in their position.

Anyhoo...I can tell you stories....................

fwiw-

8 posted on 08/21/2009 6:34:24 PM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Osage Orange

Really? I’d love to hear about the VA system.


9 posted on 08/21/2009 7:09:46 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("How's that 'hopey, changy' thing work'in out fer ya?")
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To: okie01

Glad you cleared that up — I forgot to put that in my comments. Oklahoma must be different then other states but then we don’t have the reservations like some others.


10 posted on 08/21/2009 8:38:05 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Osage Orange

I was under the impression that the Chickasaws and some other tribes here fund their own health care. I know their Clinics are funded by the tribe. Sometimes I wonder if the tribes on this side of the state are run differently.


11 posted on 08/21/2009 8:42:59 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
It's a rationing nightmare. Native american indians do not deserve this. The government should give them their freedom and power back.

Ya know, if they'd just escape the reservation mentality and quit voting Democrat, they just might live a bit longer.

Okay, they might lose one lucrative casino here or another lucrative one there, but it's their choice.

Live by the government, die by the government.

12 posted on 08/21/2009 8:51:02 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Don’t worry..........when they impose it on the rest of us the bugs will be worked out and it will be just ducky.


13 posted on 08/21/2009 8:54:18 PM PDT by Lizavetta (In Communism everything is free. But there isn't any of it.)
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To: STYRO

-———getting the patients to use the clinics is the problem.-—————

How does that tie into ‘don’t get sick after june’?


14 posted on 08/22/2009 12:22:20 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Moveon.AARP is really taking it in the shorts over Obamacare !)
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To: PhiKapMom
I think most tribes "share" funding with the Feds.....

But I am not totally clear on that....

I know the Osage Tribe does...and they are some of the wealthiest around.

15 posted on 08/22/2009 6:24:42 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Wiseghy
How about waste for starter's.......?

Huge buildings with low occupancy......for one.

I bet you can add to that.........

16 posted on 08/22/2009 6:26:42 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Osage Orange

Thanks! I wasn’t sure how it was handled — all I have experience with is the Chickasaws.


17 posted on 08/22/2009 8:23:25 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Federal funds run out in June. Why fund a health care system that rarely gets used? Most clinics could simply be closed and it would have little effect on the reservation residents. They simply choose not to use federally funded health care, which is a feel- good program for liberal politicians.


18 posted on 08/22/2009 5:22:14 PM PDT by STYRO (You don't have to obey anyone who doesn't practice what they preach.)
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