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History Unfolding
Historic City ^ | August 21, 2009 | David Kaiser

Posted on 08/21/2009 5:26:37 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: sassy steel magnolia

Well, unlike the citizens of Germany we are armed. I know many who would rather Go to the light fighting than give in to an oppressive Government. The American spirit and tradition of rebellion may save us this time. - Maybe this time it is the South that will eventually hold this country together. What a historical irony that would be.


41 posted on 08/21/2009 7:27:19 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: sassy steel magnolia

Well, unlike the citizens of Germany we are armed. I know many who would rather Go to the light fighting than give in to an oppressive Government. The American spirit and tradition of rebellion may save us this time. - Maybe this time it is the South that will eventually hold this country together. What a historical irony that would be.


42 posted on 08/21/2009 7:27:27 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

“we are armed”...for now! Bet taking firearms is the next thing after the healthcare takeover...he and his czars know their history just like we know ours. Gotta disarm us to further enact their desired socialist endstate. History is trying to repeat itself...


43 posted on 08/21/2009 7:36:33 AM PDT by sassy steel magnolia (USAF life and Navy wife...God Bless the USA!)
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To: SJackson

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44 posted on 08/21/2009 7:55:34 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: sassy steel magnolia

Taking firearms would be one big mistake. I hope it never happens, but you never know...


45 posted on 08/21/2009 8:10:47 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: skepsel

I think that if you check your facts, you’ll find that he stood for a seat in the House of Lords in 1900 and won. sd


46 posted on 08/21/2009 8:19:21 AM PDT by shotdog (I love my country; it's my government I'm afraid of.)
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To: SJackson
“(Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)”

That hits the nail on the head and should scare anyone.

The MSM is his facilitator.

47 posted on 08/21/2009 8:25:43 AM PDT by Balata
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To: ohioman; sassy steel magnolia

They won’t try to take firearms as long as they can get what they want without violence.

If you examine their actions, you’ll see an intentional provocation happening. They WANT someone to react violently, providing them an excuse to crack down and confiscate.

When that happens, we (and they) all know “It’s ON”.


48 posted on 08/21/2009 8:28:08 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: ratzoe

I feel like I have read this before. Not the descriptions
of the circumstances, but the exact wording.


49 posted on 08/21/2009 8:38:29 AM PDT by jusduat (probably lost)
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I feel like I have read this before. Not the descriptions of the circumstances, but the exact wording.

Same here...

50 posted on 08/21/2009 9:18:56 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Reagan69
They say no one can be compared to Hitler as he murdered millions of innocent people.

They conveniently forget that, in 1933, Hitler hadn't yet murdered millions of innocent people.

But he was still Hitler, and those who opposed him were right.

51 posted on 08/21/2009 9:56:39 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: SJackson
While it's an excellent article, and the parallels are frightening, there are also differences.

The Germans of the time were in love with socialism, as taught by the Kaiser.

Americans are not - for the most part. Yeah, they'll take bennies, but even on the dole they like to believe they're rugged individualists.

The Germans had (and have) a much greater tendency to follow orders.

Americans are naturally rebellious.

Obummer bears watching, no bout a doubt it. But did you see everyday Americans getting in the face of their elected reps these past few weeks ? You ain't seen nothin' yet !! Brownshirts in America would start disappearing. It wouldn't be a healthy occupation.

52 posted on 08/21/2009 10:16:26 AM PDT by jimt
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To: shotdog
FWIW, this source says he took a seat in the House of Commons in February 1901.

http://www.chu.cam.ac.uk/archives/collections/churchill_papers/biography/#POLITICIAN

53 posted on 08/21/2009 11:39:15 AM PDT by Jacquerie (We live in a Judicial Tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: SJackson
A sobering read: "THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE FREE: THE GERMANS, 1933-45"
54 posted on 08/21/2009 1:47:52 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: shotdog

I did check my facts.

Winston Churchill first ran as a Conservative for a seat in the House of Commons, not Lords, in a by-election for the Oldham constituency in 1899 and was defeated, stood again in 1900 for the same seat and was elected.

Subsequently Churchill served in various cabinet posts in different governments, running in different constituencies for different parties as political advantage dictated.

The composition of the British House of Lords is not determined by popular election.
The Lords is composed of appointed members with a small remaining number of hereditary peers.


55 posted on 08/21/2009 2:16:50 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: skepsel

I went back and checked. You are correct. I’m suitably red. sd


56 posted on 08/22/2009 10:53:44 AM PDT by shotdog (I love my country; it's my government I'm afraid of.)
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