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'God's partners in matters of life and death'
Washington Jewish Week ^ | 8/19/09 | Adam Kredo

Posted on 08/20/2009 8:50:44 AM PDT by dervish

President Barack Obama needs some outside help pushing health care reform, and he's turning to rabbis to get it.

In a morning conference call with about 1000 rabbis from across the nation, Obama asked for aid: "I am going to need your help in accomplishing necessary reform," the President told the group, according to Rabbi Jack Moline, who tweeted his way through the phoner.

"We are God's partners in matters of life and death," Obama went on to say, according to Moline's real-time stream.

The 15-minute morning briefing was sponsored by the Religion Action Center of Reform Judaism, and included rabbis of all persuasions. Although the RAC hosts the call each year, participants had never before heard from a sitting president.

What stood out about the call is that Obama "is a master communicator," Moline, the rabbi of the Conservative Agudas Achim Congregation in Alexandria, said in an interview after the call ended.

"This was clearly a message that was tailored to us," and not merely a generic stump speech, he added.

Moline noted that in the lead up to the president's address, as the rabbis waited on hold, "there was a lot of chatter" among some participants who felt that the call should be seen as an opportunity "to instruct the President about [Presidential Medal of Freedom selection] Mary Robinson" and about the peace process in the Middle East.

"It was the subject of a good deal of conversation whether anyone was going to challenge him on that," in particular Rabbi Eric Yoffie, the president of the Union of Reform Judaism, whose has publicly chided Obama for his administration's stance on settlements.

When the issues failed to come up during the health care call, Moline pithily tweeted: "Yoffie praises President and does not raise any other issue. Good for him."

"Rabbi Yoffie stuck to the subject" of health care reform, Moline said in the interview, "I think it was a good thing."

Eyebrows were also raised by the choice of hold music that played to rabbis before the call began.

"First mistake," Moline tweeted, as he waited for the call to begin. "Music on hold is 'Deutschland uber Alles,' " a classical German anthem, the lyrics to which in part say, "Preserve and protect our Kaiser, our land."

(The music was chosen by the company carrying the conference call, not the White House or the RAC.)

A questioned submitted by Moline also was asked to the President, the rabbi proudly noted on Twitter, writing, "WOW! My question was asked of the President!!!!!"

The question, he later explained, was about how rabbis can address issue of health care reform "in a non partisan" way when they're behind the pulpit.

Obama responded by noting that the massive "human toll" of a broken health care system is a non partisan issue, and simply is unacceptable, Moline recalled.

The call, which was closed to the media, precedes another Obama phoner that is to take place at 5 p.m. this evening (Wednesday).


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Obama admits with his comment "We are God's partners in matters of life and death" that he believes he is entitled to usurp the role of the Creator.

God has no partners.

1 posted on 08/20/2009 8:50:44 AM PDT by dervish
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To: socialismisinsidious

what ego!


2 posted on 08/20/2009 8:51:29 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish

Obama considers himself the senior partner too.

When a dictator considers himself God’s partner in matters of life and death it should scare the crap out of people.


3 posted on 08/20/2009 8:52:55 AM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: dervish
What stood out about the call is that Obama "is a master communicator,"

I'm torn between laughing insanely and puking for the next hour.

4 posted on 08/20/2009 8:53:56 AM PDT by kromike
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To: dervish

So is the ACLU going to sue Obama for violating separation of church and state?


5 posted on 08/20/2009 8:54:07 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: dervish

Don’t preach to me, Zero. You haven’t found a church, didn’t participate in the National Day of Prayer, believe in abortion, mock ‘Middle America’ as “clinging to their guns and religion”......shall I go on?

You @ss.


6 posted on 08/20/2009 8:55:01 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('Always love your country — but never trust your government!' ~ Robert Novak (RIP))
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To: Aria

Yeah, and where’s Barry Lynn?


7 posted on 08/20/2009 8:55:09 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Can we trade in the clunker we have in the White House?)
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So he considers himself an equal? Bizarre.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 8:55:50 AM PDT by eureka! (Turn the Tea Party into our own ACORN when voting time comes. GOTV.)
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To: dervish

BE BELIEVES HE IS GOD’S PARTNER IN LIFE AND DEATH AND THAT IS WHY HE IS PRO CHOICE. THIS FINALLY MAKES SENSE TO ME. WOW THIS GUY IS REALLY SICK.


9 posted on 08/20/2009 8:56:12 AM PDT by seawolf101
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To: Aria

I tremble for the man who has no fear of God.


10 posted on 08/20/2009 8:56:38 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: dervish

Would God take a partner that encourages and endorses infanticide, genocide and abortion? I think not.


11 posted on 08/20/2009 8:57:06 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: All

barry, you ignorant slut....
Sorry for the language, but damn..does he even think about the drivel that comes out of his mouth?
God has no partners, no equals, only servants.
obama is so stupid, I think he’d order a Whopper if he went thru the drive thru at McDonald’s...


12 posted on 08/20/2009 8:57:16 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Maverick68

obama is so stupid, I think he’d order a Whopper if he went thru the drive thru at McDonald’s...
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LOL! Now, that’s funny right there!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)


13 posted on 08/20/2009 8:58:46 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ('Always love your country — but never trust your government!' ~ Robert Novak (RIP))
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To: dervish

If Bush had said that .....


14 posted on 08/20/2009 8:58:57 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dervish

Appealing to morality to defend immorality. This is just another Alinsky rule— make the Jews and Christians abide by their morals while he and the Communist atheists do not.


15 posted on 08/20/2009 8:59:05 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: All

And the scariest part of all: someone wrote it for him. They had time to think about it, time to rehearse the line, and STILL didn’t see anything wrong with it.
I stand by my earlier assertion that W is a smarter and MUCH wiser man...


16 posted on 08/20/2009 8:59:19 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: GeronL

It’s only a matter of time, as it was with the insane Roman Emperor Caligula, before the Big Zero actually declares himself a god.

You didn’t want to be around disagreeing with anything that Caligula mandated.......

Militant


17 posted on 08/20/2009 8:59:51 AM PDT by militant2 (I may not agree with everything you say, but......hell, I don't agree with anything you say!)
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To: WestwardHo
I tremble for the man who has no fear of God.

I agree. And he is, also, mocking God!

Galatians 6 vs. 7
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
18 posted on 08/20/2009 9:00:21 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Maverick68

Is there anyone here that is part of this organization ?

http://rac.org/feedback/

Or perhaps willing to find out what company was responsible for the conferance call?

I don’t know of any company that uses a song about the Kaiser in a foreign language as hold music.


19 posted on 08/20/2009 9:01:10 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: presently no screen name

Worse than that, we should all be aware of what the bible says about one who declares himself equal to God.


20 posted on 08/20/2009 9:01:53 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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