Posted on 08/19/2009 11:53:48 AM PDT by WhiteCastle
Late last week, Conservative Member of the European Parliament, Daniel Hannan, appeared on Fox News. His statement that the US should not attempt to create a new health care system, based on the British model of the National Health Service (NHS), ignited a firestorm in England. On Friday morning, the British airwaves and print media, not to mention the blogosphere, went into overdrive with comments which amounted to a national self examination verging on a societal inquisition. Full marks to Steven Glover for his analysis in The Daily Mail. He wrote what most Brits would categorize as “the bleeding obvious.” The medical care provided by the NHS is not a chamber of horrors, nor is it wholly incompetent. However, facts are facts.
“In treating almost every cancer, America apparently does better than Britain, sometimes appreciably so,” Glover observed. “According to a study in Lancet Oncology last year, 91.9 per cent of American men with prostate cancer were still alive after five years, compared with only 51.1 percent in Britain. The same publication suggests that 90.1 percent of women in the U.S., diagnosed with breast cancer between 2000 and 2002, survived for at least five years, as against 77.8 percent in Britain.“
(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...
That is a truly great column. Health care to die for.
If you haven’t heard Daniel Hannan speak, take the time. I wish he was an American politician.
Great line - Obamacare = health care to die for.
“According to a study in Lancet Oncology last year, 91.9 per cent of American men with prostate cancer were still alive after five years, compared with only 51.1 percent in Britain.”
This is true to a great extent because prostate cancer tends to predominently strike the elderly. Socialized medicine finds is difficult to rationalize expensive therapy for old folks who no longer support families nor pay taxes, but instead, receive government pensions. They’ll die soon anyway, eh?
“One friend, by way of comparison, was just diagnosed as having a large uterine fibroid tumor and was told to “live with it.” She is 80 and is in otherwise good health. Is this a case of health care rationing? In the US, this tumor would be removed immediately. She wants it removed. The government has said no.”
More like “die with it”!
I recently posted the following on the Canadian health care system — I think it bears repeating here:
“The Fraser Institute, a Conservative think tank, has produced the definitive series of studies on Canada’s health care system. Anyone interested in knowing the facts, should read their reports. You can access them on line here:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/researchandpublications/researchtopics/health.htm
Freepers will likely enjoy this one, for the Reaganesque title alone.
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/commerce.web/product_files/Realities-of-Health-Policy-CA.pdf
It busts a lot of health-care myths. There’s plenty of ammo there, to shoot down any Obamabot talking points.”
Courtesy of Rush.
He said speed was not the reason why she went to California.
She when to California to save her nipple. Now, that's life saving.
Isn’t Mr. Hannan just remarkable! I love to listen to him. He was a guest on Hannity recently in an interview format and he was just riveting. I admire his thinking so very much!
Wow, great article!
But, but, Obama wants all our taxpayers money so he can pay all his buddies all these millions to make sure that we all get good healthcare. As long as they are able to pocket as much of it as they can in the process.
A chamber of small horrors is not as bad as a chamber of large horrors, I suppose.
Just based on the uterine fibroid thing alone, she probably could just live with it. Fibroid cysts are pretty common, actually. However, you are right, if she were otherwise healthy, she’d have laproscopic surgery to have it excised pretty much at her request.
The DHS Constitution for Health Care makes some very interesting reading. For example, patients have the right to drugs and treatments, but only those approved by the government. A new cancer drug or treatment that might cure your cancer or lengthen your survival...too bad it is not yet approved by the government ..too expensive you know. That is what we mean by rationing of care.
I sent Hannan’s video to a couple of Liberal acquaintances
This is what they replied with :
http://www.132harleystreet.com/Treatments/fibroids.asp
http://www.londonbridgehospital.com/LBH/services-det/fibroid-embolisation/
http://www.theportlandhospital.com/womens-health-faqs.asp
3 private clinics smack dab in the center of London that offer fibroid removal outside of the NHS.
I’d be careful who I send this to, I looked like a completed idiot.
Now that we no longer have a prohibition on natural born citizenship for President, Hannan should come here and run.
Okay so, clinics exist in London. In other words, pay for public health but if you actually want quality health care, be prepared to pay again. Sheesh.
The reason that our meds, insurance and hospital bills are so damn high is because of government subsidized Medicaid and Medicare. I would imagine that the cost of these private clinics would be enormous too since only the wealthiest Brits can afford it.
The contrary, actually.
You make the point - in the US, you want them removed? Why not? Low risk and it may improve the quality of your life.
The one they took out of my wife was the size of a carborator. Elective surgery? Perhaps, but having a carborator sized mass taken out of her took the pain away and improved the quality of her life. The Dr. even said she could have continued to have had that thing in her for the duration since the pain was intermittent and she’s not going to be having kids.
The Dr. also said that there’s also no more chance of it growing any bigger and pushing against something that COULD cause her problems.
In the UK - sorry, not essential, so deal with it. In the US, you want it gone, and your insurance covers it, and you’re willing to pay the deductable, so let’s do it.
I don’t see where you’re the idiot here. I think your points been made.
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