"Far out!"
“450,000 US Doctors Support President Obama Health Care reform.”
Yeah but, 200,000,000 Americans don’t. You do the math.
That wasn’t directed at you.
Pretty good propaganda until this part:
12- QUESTION: How much will this bill cost?
Answer: The CBOs latest estimates the cost to be $1.042 trillion over ten years. Two third (2/3) of the cost will be duly funded by addressing inefficiencies in Medicare and Medicaid, by cracking down hard on fraud, and by eliminating waste and abuse in these programs blah blah blah...
How stupid do you have to be to believe this?
Reminder:
YES WE CAN read the bill online.
About the bill here:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3200
Suggested links to read the bill here:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-3200
Believe NOTHING! They keep suckering people in w/decept. Why do they need 1,000 pages+ written by attorneys if it were all so cut and dry.
I thought this part was hilarious, too:
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9- QUESTION: Will all small businesses be forced to provide coverage to their employees?
Answer: The bill exempts small businesses with a payroll of less than $250,000 from the requirement to provide health insurance for their workers. Businesses with payrolls above $250,000 that do not provide coverage will be charged a payroll tax that will gradually increase with the size of their payroll.
The tax will start at a low 2% for payrolls above $250,000 and increase to a maximum cap of 8% for payrolls above $400,000.
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The difference between a $250,000 payroll and a $400,000 payroll is 3 employees making less than $50,000/yr. each. So basically, the tax is 8% on most small businesses that do not pay for their employees’ health insurance.
Question 4 - No, you won’t have to be on the public option if you lose your employer provided coverage...sure you can shop around. However, the bill explicitly states that insurance companies won’t be able to write new policies. Isn’t that correct?
Question 8 - Abortion is specifically not mentioned in the Health Commission Choices legislation...hey, wait a minute. Weren’t we just talking about HR 3200? Nice little sleight of hand there, sneaky snakes.
“CASH FOR CODGERS!”
DemocRats, realizing the success of the President’s “Cash For Clunkers” rebate program, have revamped a major portion of their National Health Care Plan.
President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Sen. Reed are expected to make this major announcement at a joint news conference later this week. I have obtained an advanced copy of the proposal which is named....
“CASH FOR CODGERS” and it works like this... Couples wishing to access health care funds in order to pay for the delivery of a child or any woman looking to secure a government paid abortion, will be required to turn in one old person. The amount the government grants them will be fixed according to a sliding scale. Older and more prescription dependent codgers will garner the highest amounts.
Special “Bonuses” will be paid for those submitting codgers in targeted groups, such as smokers, alcohol drinkers, persons 10 pounds over their government prescribed weight, and any member of the Republican Party.
“The bill is not being rushed. It is long o-v-e-r-d-u-e.”
Such BS! Oh, Teddy Roosevelt was working on this so it should be done by now...that is they dumbest statement I’ve ever read. As far as this whole issue goes, it’s new to this presidency and ought to be reviewed for 1-2 years and then voted on. Now that would be reasonable and atleast semi-justifiable. Even if I didn’t agree with the bill that would be passed, I would admit it was more throrough and debated.
Answer: No. You will always have a choice. If you like your insurance, you can keep it. H.R. 3200 builds on the employer-based coverage we have today. If your employer offers health insurance, you will continue to get your coverage through them.
You will not be able to keep your existing coverage, except in the most limited sense:
(a) Grandfathered Health Insurance Coverage Defined- Subject to the succeeding provisions of this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable coverage under this division, the term `grandfathered health insurance coverage’ means individual health insurance coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:
(1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT-
(A) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1. [Y1 = first year of ObamaCare]
(2) LIMITATION ON CHANGES IN TERMS OR CONDITIONS- Subject to paragraph (3) and except as required by law, the issuer does not change any of its terms or conditions, including benefits and cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day before the first day of Y1.
All existing plans will banned from accepting new members. They will be completely frozen. The plans will become unsustainable after a few years and fail. This is by design.
Obama is using a technicality to evade the truth. When he says you can 'keep your existing coverage' he being as truthful as Clinton saying 'I did not have sex with that woman.' (A blow-job isn't intercourse.)
Don't believe DNC talking points. Go to www.thomas.gov and click on “HR 3200” at top of the page in red letters. Click on the link “Text of Legislation”. Read the bill for yourself.
Obama sent a separate bill to the house in July, titled "The Independent Medicare Advisory Council." It will freeze Medicare spending as of 2014, and...
"The kind of system changes you might expect from IMAC are suggested by the June report from MedPAC. Among other things, it proposes that Medicare take steps to penalize hospitals with abnormally high readmission rates for their patients, while allowing them to reward staff members for reducing those rates.
It also suggests experimenting with flat-fee payments for each patient hospitalized with certain common ailments, rather than the current open-ended billing for each test and treatment -- as an incentive to hospitals to control costs.
Obama's proposal almost certainly would accelerate change in the way health care is delivered -- and it might actually save money in the long run.
But Congress will have to decide if it is willing to yield that degree of control to five unelected IMAC commissioners. And Americans will have to decide if they are comfortable having those commissioners determine how they will be treated when they are ill."
Ping!
Ping!
Answer: No. Everything is all chocolate rivers and rainbow skies. Everything will be free, and in fact, you will get paid $20.00 in cash, plus get a Golden Ticket when you visit the doctor. Oopma Loompas will perform all surgeries, and those will be free too. Minorities will get more care, but this is to even out years of oppressive discrimination against them, so have another Everlasting Gob-stopper and forget about it.
The 2nd part of question 12 is will this cover the cost of research, new technology, new equipment, training etc.
Answer: The Exchange is an online clearinghouse for all insurance plans. To be part of it and compete for customers, an insurance plan must contain a basic minimum of benefits as determined by the Health Choices Commission, established in the legislation.
All future health plans must originate in this 'Clearing House', which is really a choke point for mandating what kind of coverage you will be allowed to have. Here is what the bill really says:
SEC. 121. COVERAGE OF ESSENTIAL BENEFITS PACKAGE.
a) In General- A qualified health benefits plan shall provide coverage that at least meets the benefit standards adopted under section 124 for the essential benefits package described in section 122 for the plan year involved.
SEC. 123. HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
(a) Establishment-
(1) IN GENERAL- There is established a private-public advisory committee which shall be a panel of medical and other experts to be known as the Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits and essential, enhanced, and premium plans.
(b) Duties-
(1) RECOMMENDATIONS ON BENEFIT STANDARDS- The Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall recommend to the Secretary of Health and Human Services (in this subtitle referred to as the `Secretary') benefit standards (as defined in paragraph (4)), and periodic updates to such standards. In developing such recommendations, the Committee shall take into account innovation in health care and consider how such standards could reduce health disparities.
(5) PARTICIPATION- The membership of the Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall at least reflect providers, consumer representatives, employers, labor, health insurance issuers, experts in health care financing and delivery, experts in racial and ethnic disparities, experts in care for those with disabilities, representatives of relevant governmental agencies. and at least one practicing physician or other health professional and an expert on children's health and shall represent a balance among various sectors of the health care system so that no single sector unduly influences the recommendations of such Committee.
(a) Process for Adoption of Recommendations-
(1) REVIEW OF RECOMMENDED STANDARDS- Not later than 45 days after the date of receipt of benefit standards recommended under section 123 (including such standards as modified under paragraph (2)(B)), the Secretary shall review such standards and shall determine whether to propose adoption of such standards as a package.
(2) DETERMINATION TO ADOPT STANDARDS- If the Secretary determines--
(A) to propose adoption of benefit standards so recommended as a package, the Secretary shall, by regulation under section 553 of title 5, United States Code, propose adoption such standards; or
(B) not to propose adoption of such standards as a package, the Secretary shall notify the Health Benefits Advisory Committee in writing of such determination and the reasons for not proposing the adoption of such recommendation and provide the Committee with a further opportunity to modify its previous recommendations and submit new recommendations to the Secretary on a timely basis.
(a) In General- A qualified health benefits plan shall provide coverage that at least meets the benefit standards adopted under section 124 for the essential benefits package described in section 122 for the plan year involved.
(1) REQUIRED OFFERING OF BASIC PLAN- The entity offers only one basic plan for such service area.
(2) OPTIONAL OFFERING OF ENHANCED PLAN- If and only if the entity offers a basic plan for such service area, the entity may offer one enhanced plan for such area.
(3) OPTIONAL OFFERING OF PREMIUM PLAN- If and only if the entity offers an enhanced plan for such service area, the entity may offer one premium plan for such area.
(4) OPTIONAL OFFERING OF PREMIUM-PLUS PLANS- If and only if the entity offers a premium plan for such service area, the entity may offer one or more premium-plus plans for such area.
All such plans may be offered under a single contract with the Commissioner.
(c) Specification of Benefit Levels for Plans-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Commissioner shall establish the following standards consistent with this subsection and title I:
(A) BASIC, ENHANCED, AND PREMIUM PLANS- Standards for 3 levels of Exchange-participating health benefits plans: basic, enhanced, and premium (in this division referred to as a `basic plan', `enhanced plan', and `premium plan', respectively).
Items to note from the above:
Pathological rat bastard liars!!! The demoRATs pull statistics & numbers at will out of their asses. Where do these numbers come from? The overwhelming majority of physicians OPPOSE 0bozoCare.
Same thing with "47 million" uninsured.... or is it 45 million? or is it 43 million? or 50 million? I have heard every one of these numbers from demoRATs & their media hacks. In all honesty when you factor out 12-15 million illegal aliens & 8-10 million (over $50,000 income) who deliberately choose to NOT buy health insurance and 8-10 million under age 30 now covered by SCHIP (1st legislation signed by 0bozo), you get to roughly 8 million who are chronically uninsured. So give them voucher payment for up to $5000 to buy their own insurance, enact the cost savings in Medicare & Medicaid that the dimWits claim they will, enact TORT malpractice limitations & presto 0bozo, the health care crisis is solved!!!
yep, they push propaganda