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California employees face quandary over carbon offsets
Sacramento Bee ^ | 8/16/9 | Tom Knudson

Posted on 08/16/2009 1:56:22 PM PDT by SmithL

Al Gore buys them. So do the Grateful Dead, Hollywood celebrities and, increasingly, many climate-conscious executives and consumers.

For those who travel the world by air but don't want to contribute to global warming in the process, compensating with so-called carbon offsets has become a fashionable solution.

The sale of these credits for environmentally friendly activities, investments in everything from wind energy to carbon stored in forests, jumped from $97 million in 2006 to $331 million worldwide in 2007 – about a quarter of it in the United States.

But one global green leader does not offset its travel, even though its employees regularly fly around the world warning about the dangers of climate change and devising strategies to combat it. That leader is the state of California.

"As a state employee, you are put in an awkward situation," said Tony Brunello, deputy secretary of climate change and energy at the Natural Resources Agency who has traveled to Europe, South America and Indonesia.

"We are trying to push (emissions) reductions," Brunello said. "It would help us, as state workers, to have some clear direction on what you do and you don't offset."

His quandary hit home after a recent trip to Brazil for which no offsets were purchased. When The Bee asked about that, Brunello decided to buy them himself.

"Do we need a policy for how this stuff works?" asked Sandy Cooney, a spokesman for the resources agency. "Absolutely, yes – because one does not exist."

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; carbonoffsets; globalwarminghoax; goldenstate; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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1 posted on 08/16/2009 1:56:23 PM PDT by SmithL
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2 posted on 08/16/2009 1:56:43 PM PDT by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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To: SmithL

So, what’s the carbon tax for these forest fires?


3 posted on 08/16/2009 1:59:12 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: SmithL

Carbon offsets result in no carbon reducstions.

None.

It’s a money laundering exchange scam on par with the other liberal money scams,


4 posted on 08/16/2009 2:00:35 PM PDT by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: SmithL

Meanwhile some Northern Ca. moron throws a lit cigarette butt out the window and causing huge, raging forest fires.
Gotta be spewing tons of carbon into the atmosphere. Try tallying up those carbon credits. What lunacy!


5 posted on 08/16/2009 2:00:48 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: tired1
So, what’s the carbon tax for these forest fires?

Exactly - and when they are set by illegals, does their country pay the tax??

6 posted on 08/16/2009 2:01:18 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: SmithL

The farce of carbon indulgences.


7 posted on 08/16/2009 2:01:25 PM PDT by A message (3 years 5 months 3 days until Jim Thompson is President)
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To: tired1

remember whenever ppl attack America for using more energy than the rest of the world, remind them to blame New York and California


8 posted on 08/16/2009 2:02:13 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: tired1

“So, what’s the carbon tax for these forest fires?”

forest fires??

85,000 Acre California Fire, still burning caused by Mexican Drug Cartels - confirmed!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2317334/posts


9 posted on 08/16/2009 2:02:33 PM PDT by AuntB (Tired of D & R globalist power brokers? How 'bout HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY? It's a state of mind!)
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To: SmithL

I still think that the concept of, “Go ahead and pollute. Just pay us to do it!” is kind of wacky. Are these pinheads in the business to “save the planet” or just make money to provide “green jobs?” Smells “fishy” to me. Algore and his “celebraties” can continue purchasing “carbon credits” if it gives them warm fuzzies but don’t shove this bullsh*t down my throat.


10 posted on 08/16/2009 2:02:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (January 20th, 2013)
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To: NoLibZone

Exactly correct.


11 posted on 08/16/2009 2:03:25 PM PDT by Roberts
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To: SmithL

Well, let’s see here...

First, they can travel all they want to because there is no global warming. Second, they can buy all the carbon offsets they want to, because offsets are just phony feel-good mumbo-jumbo anyhow. And finally, it doesn’t much matter what state employees do because they probably won’t have a job much longer anyhow.

That seems to about cover it!


12 posted on 08/16/2009 2:04:20 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: SmithL
Can we cap the travel expenses and trade these public employees out to liberal thinktanks so we don't have to continue paying their salaries, paying their travel expenses while at the same time they tell us that the state's broke?

I just can't believe the insanity of an article talking about how public employees are confused about buying offsets for their travel - got a better idea - YOU'RE FIRED. There, problem solved.

13 posted on 08/16/2009 2:19:26 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: SmithL
Al Gore buys them from himself.

There. Fixed it.

14 posted on 08/16/2009 2:19:56 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Palin / Palin 2012 (either order))
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To: SmithL

I’ll sell them Carbon Indulgences - as many as they would like to buy.


15 posted on 08/16/2009 2:20:30 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: SmithL
Let me get this straight, it's ok to pollute and you're not thought bad of for doing it, so long as you buy gore's "carbon offsets"?

Doesn't that smack of a version of a mobster "protection racket"?

Didn't I see today where some parts of California had a low temp this morning of 57 degrees....in AUGUST?

I must have fallen asleep about 20 years ago, because all that's going on in America HAS to be a nightmare. American's are too smart to fall for this nonsense...I thought.
16 posted on 08/16/2009 2:21:26 PM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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To: SmithL

I’m having a special on carbon credits this weekend. Two for the price of one. Hurry, they will not last. I take PayPal: make your purchase at carboncreditos@showmethemoney.com. Minimum purchase of $500 (remember, that will get you $1000 in carbon credits).

And, if you’ll order in the next hour, you can purchase your credits in your choice of colors. “Color” carbon credits is a recent enhancement, and not everyone has realized the extra value there. Green has been very popular, followed by light blue.


17 posted on 08/16/2009 2:21:54 PM PDT by moovova (More coffee please...make it a double.)
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To: moovova
Bernie Madoff did not have a clue when it comes down to a Scam.

AlGores a bloody genius for this one.

18 posted on 08/16/2009 2:26:25 PM PDT by jedi150
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To: FrankR

American’s are too smart to fall for this nonsense...I thought.


Ha ha — That’s a good one. Sometimes, I think the only country being run for the good of that country are the Asian ones (Japan, South Korea, or China). Everyone else has drunk the Kool-Aid.


19 posted on 08/16/2009 2:37:57 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: SmithL
But one global green leader does not offset its travel, even though its employees regularly fly around the world warning about the dangers of climate change and devising strategies to combat it. That leader is the state of California.

They say that they are "broke" but they have the money for this nonsense? That ain't broke.

What they need is a good controller. One that knows how to budget. I suggest a middle class parent with at least three kids who has no debt except for the mortgage.

Those people know how to cut costs.

20 posted on 08/16/2009 2:44:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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