Posted on 08/16/2009 1:53:20 AM PDT by xtinct
Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America
A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter. The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.
It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.
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That damned apostrophe had to just sneak in there.Just
my fingers playing tricks on me.
I meant to type ILL in there.but the apostrophe got me.
[[If the usual rate of GBS following a seasonal flu vaccination is 1:1,000,000 and that of those getting it following the immunization for swine flu is 1:160,000,000, then one could say that getting the vaccination reduced their risk of getting GBS to 1/160 of that of other flu-vaccinated people. So the overall message of this story is that not only is your chance of getting a potentially deadly swine flu greatly reduced by the vaccination, so are your chances of getting GBS.]]
Should be a no brainer then- Get the shot to help prevent GBS- those that do get GBS most likely would have contracted it anyways even if they hadn’t received the shot, but since they got the shot, they automatically attribute it to the shot- that’s the problem with anectdotal cases-
Folks who take this or that ‘miracle formula’ put out by various vitimin companies, will say6 soemthign like “I prevented myself fro mgetting (cancer, diabetese, this that or hte other hting) because I took such and such a product-” but how in the world do they know they wouldn’t have got htose things even if they hadn’t taken the product? Or someoen wil lclaim “My cancer went into remission after takign hte product’ Yeah? And these peopel know that they weren’t actually one of hte folks who woudkl have naturally experienced spontanious remission how again?
In the early years of course, there were documented cases of GBS from the spanish flu shots, but htis was an extreme case, and exceptional case- the flu shots have been for htem ost part fairly safe, and have mostl ikely prevented many more deaths in the sick and elderly, than have caused problems in those same folks-
I’m not suggesting that the new swine flu vaccine is safe, we just don’t know yet, but as you point out, what we do know already, is proving that it actually reduces hte risk of aquiring GBS, and will help prevent a known deadly flu as well
We need more data
I will, as usual, get the annual flu vaccine since I do think it helps and has no side effects for me. I'm not convinced to get the swine flu vaccine though.
The internet anti-vaccine movement is so wrought with misinformation and outright lies that anything they publish is false by default. I shudder to think at the number of kids who got sick or died because of the “work” of the anti-vaccine crowd in the last ten years.
[[I’m still having a problem believing that this is a naturally occurring flu strain - the chance of a pig eating an infected bird’s droppings and then spreading it to humans is hard to imagine]]
Why is it hard to imagine? Pigs live out in hte open where bird droppings fall into hteir food sources all the time, plus they root around in the ground for roots, grubs, and other edibles, and there’s bird droppings all over hte place- an when you have pig farms (or any farm really) there is always goign to be grain that gets scattered round attractign birds lookign for easy meals
[[The internet anti-vaccine movement is so wrought with misinformation and outright lies that anything they publish is false by default. I shudder to think at the number of kids who got sick or died because of the “work” of the anti-vaccine crowd in the last ten years.]]
Gotta agree with thaT statement mysterio- I have several pretty severe health conditions, and I’ve doen a lot of research into them, looking for ‘natural alternatives’ etc, and the garbage claims that are out htere for myriad products, claimign to ‘cure, or help’ any particular illness is incredible, and you always see ‘testimonies’ underneath the claims, but again, the problem with htese ‘testimonies’ is that thoe folks who claim to have been ‘cured’ did a great many lifestyle changes when they found out they had an illness, and in all likelihood were ‘helped’ not by the product, but rather by simple lifestyle changes after all. Anecdotasl evidences look impressive, but when you really examine the claims, I’ve foudn that there are simply so many variables that happened i nthese folks lives that it’s actually irresponsible to claim some ‘miracle herb’ was responsible for the change.
We have to be VERY careful- I know of several peopel that avoided cancer treatments who opted to ‘go hte natural route’ and who died who may have not died had they gone htrough conventional treatment early enough- I’ve got a neighbor that is BIG into ‘natural cures’ and they live in an area that is infested with ticks which cause lyme disease, and htey refuse to even get checked thinkign htey are protected by their natural products- this is just insane, and htere’s NO gettign htrough to these people either. They’re always bringing over soem super expensive drink or product made from some exotic Amazonian plant etc, and wantign us to get involved in marketting hte product- NO THANKS! I’ve seen too many peopel get royally screwed out of their hard earned money, only to what? Feel slightly better? IF that? These folks usually claim they ‘never felt better’ but lookign at them, they don’t look so hot
Sorry- carrying on- but it’;s just that I’ve investigated scam claims about natural products, and it really burns me that people would be SO cruel as to play on the emotions of sick folks who are desperate and lookign for help
But back to hte shot- Again we need more data before makign a decision, but to get it, there’ll have to be guinny pigs for sure, but so far hte numbers look good- actual research numbers, not anecdotal evidneces and ‘testimonies’
Its been my experience to take vitamin C at the first sign of a sore throat or cold, and I consequently haven’t had anything other than temporary cold or flu symptoms for at least thirty years.
I’ll delay my taking of the new vaccine.
Forced vaccination poison ping.
What is this “sun” thing you people are talking about?
I live on the Oregon Coast:)
All you need to know about 1976 swine flu outbreak, and vaccinations against it:
... >Only young Lewis died from the swine flu itself in 1976. But as the critics are quick to point out, hundreds of Americans were killed or seriously injured by the inoculation the government gave them to stave off the virus.
"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" - George Santayana
LOL, I remember having to pull some stunts like that in my association with the military:)
Granted....they were likely the very young, and the infirm.
But the point is.....the flu killed them.
I shudder to think at the number of kids who got sick or died because of the “work” of the anti-vaccine crowd in the last ten years.
But you apparently aren’t bothered by the number of kids who were healthy until crammed full of dozens of vaccines and now have life-long ailments and problems. I have seen and experienced vaccine injury first hand. It is not some kooky internet conspiracy. It is real and it destroys lives. Why are vaccine manufacturers immune from lawsuits when their vaccines injure people if they are all so safe and wonderful?
I was responding to this statement:
“THIS influenza has ALREADY killed almost 500 Americans. And that’s in the non-flu season! It will be much worse during flu season”
My response is that ‘it IS flu season’ in Austrailia and they have had only 12 deaths from H1N1. The yearly flu kills more. This flu vaccine is not in liu of the yearly vaccine. So far, (In FLU SEASON) more people in Austrailia have died from the regular flu than from the H1N1 virus.
What we are hearing is pure speculation and the numbers are not supporting this speculation. We can ‘what if’ about all sorts of things. We are going by data presently available and presently the death rate is low.
Having researched the issue, I am NEVER touching a flu vaccine.
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Neither am I. I’ve never had the flu, I don’t know anyone that’s ever had the flu, but I know many people that took the shot and got really sick.
Some 30k people die of the flu in the U.S. every year....
Would you stop falling for this bogus,CDC crapola made up to scare people into taking immune-system destroying flu shots every year. Every year they give the same number- exactly 36,000 people die from the flu. The number remains the same regardless of percentage of people vaccinated? Doesn’t this seem strange? If vaccinations supposedly go up every year, why does the number of deaths never decrease or stop altogether? Answer: it is a BS MARKETING CAMPAIGN by the CDC (center for disease creation). Trust me, my husband and I both work in a field where we know how this works. It is not about public health- it is about making MONEY (we have been told this to our faces when we have raised concerns) using people as their hapless victims. If they get the shot AND the flu or other illnesses caused by the shot, so much the better for them, because they will make more money from doctor’s visits and drugs! Please wake up to this scam.
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