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Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease...
Mail Online ^ | 8/16/09 | Jo Macfarlane

Posted on 08/16/2009 1:53:20 AM PDT by xtinct

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To: xtinct
The last time I got a flu shot was in 1969. It was for the Hong Kong flu. I became extremely ill with not only that but the Asian flu at the same time.

Last serious bout of flu that I got was December 1976. A mild, mild case was in February 1993.

I haven't gotten a flu shot since ‘69 and I won't be getting them just because I've gotten older.

Now I have had bronchitis twice within the past 18 months. I will be getting a pneumonia shot within the next couple of months to lessen the chances of lung infections going into pneumonia (now that I've be come prone to them).

41 posted on 08/16/2009 7:23:39 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Zero is fast becoming America's Hitler.)
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To: Nucluside
Never have I been sick as I was from that swine flu shot, and I always refuse to get another one.

Here too. I had the one in '76 and I ended up with double pneumonia after a week. I've had mild cases of flu since then but nothing like I did that time. I will never take another flu vaccine again.

42 posted on 08/16/2009 7:26:09 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: xtinct; Guenevere; mkjessup; puppypusher; sam_paine

One of the companies making the *new* flu vaccine has had some major issues.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Still-Think-They-re-Not-Tr-by-Mr-M-090305-202.html


43 posted on 08/16/2009 7:26:18 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: aruanan
...then one could say that getting the vaccination reduced their risk of getting GBS to 1/160 of that of other flu-vaccinated people.

Just a thought.
I wonder how many non-vaccinated people would have even been exposed to the virus in the first place had some terrified self-centered, pansy-arsed little jerk not allowed him/herself to be infected with the virus in the first place?
Hmmmm? I guess we'll never no eh? No one ever wants to do studies on the residual effects brought on by these "vaccinations". Just so long as the one getting the shot thinks he/she is protected that alone justifies endangering the lives of every person he/she comes in contact with. Personally, I think that anyone that wants to receive the vaccination do so with the understanding that he/she will be quarantined for the duration of 30 days or longer should the effects have not worn off by the end of that 30 day period of time. This way we can insure that no one will contract the disease from a government infected "Typhoid Mary."

Again... Just a thought.

44 posted on 08/16/2009 7:27:55 AM PDT by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: xtinct

Does anyone know of a person who has contracted swine flu and how bad were the symptoms. I know of about five people who had a bad flu but were never tested for swine flu. If it is just a bad flu ...why the vacine?


45 posted on 08/16/2009 7:29:12 AM PDT by jetson
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To: kara2008

...shots beginning in October....
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Other than mandatory shots in Navy I have never taken the flu shot offered.
I have never had the flu (extended anyway) and have had 1 physical in the last 50 years (3 years ago)and am in perfect health.
When this MANDATORY shot comes along, I will not get it either but then again OBAMASCARE may help as I will be 70 in OCT and we all know they can’t/won’t waste the miracle on us “OLD FARTZ”


46 posted on 08/16/2009 7:38:43 AM PDT by xrmusn
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To: xrmusn

..one physical 50 years...

TYPO

Make that 40 years.....


47 posted on 08/16/2009 7:42:45 AM PDT by xrmusn
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To: xrmusn

If I have cancer and want this shot....does the government need to approve, as it is an added expense since I am going to die anyway???? Just checkin’


48 posted on 08/16/2009 7:56:52 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: xtinct

So they are kicking around the idea of forcing this vaccine on us and/or our children and are also immune from lawsuits?!?!
They might as well come to my home with a weapon drawn on me. They are pushing us into violence and I have not figured out why yet. I have my theories but nothing definite, i mean they know we are incredibly well armed and MORE than willing to kill in defense.


49 posted on 08/16/2009 8:00:36 AM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

re: vitamin D

You can get vitamin D from exposure to sunlight. Just get outside 20 minutes a day. (La Leche League lesson)


50 posted on 08/16/2009 8:20:16 AM PDT by married21
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To: wolfcreek

That is a frightening story, thanks for posting the link!

The question remains: WHY should we trust the Government and their hand-picked pharmaceutical suppliers when it comes to vaccines, when their track record suggests that they are not only utterly incompetent but perhaps criminally negligent?


51 posted on 08/16/2009 8:22:12 AM PDT by mkjessup (Hey Comrade 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House!!!)
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To: Nucluside
Your recount sounds similar to one that I have as well. In 1994 or so, we received our flu shot and 13 of us out of "about" 600 simply came down with whatever they injected us with. 12 were admitted to a local hospital (we were overseas and were a GSU), but I got to stay home because my wife was the Staff Nurse at the small medical aid station we had and the docs knew I would be watched closely.

I swore OFF flu shots after that and separated from active duty in 1998. They "tried" to give me one more before I left, but I simply pointed out that I would be gone in 8 months and they didn't press the issue fortunately.

I will tell you something interesting that happened while I was out processing in 1998 (USAF). I was going from place to place getting my out processing forms signed. I had to go to "aerospace medicine" for some reason. The guy behind the counter pulled some sort of records from his files (NOT the full medical records pack that we all had) and put it up on the counter. He scanned through it and said, "Hold on a minute! We don't have a blood sample for DNA! We have to take care of that!" I said, "Oh really? Let me see!" I turned the records around in my direction and he stepped into the other room to get a blood test kid and I ran out the door!...WITH my records! :-)

But back to the subject of this thread... my stepfather suffers with Gillian Barre Syndrome NOW from a flu shot he took back around 2000 or so. It's a very nasty ailment to have and in all likelihood it's going to kill him eventually. He's an Obama supporter and is having great difficulty with the concept that something done for the common good has personally FUBAR'd him so badly. I can't help him there though!
52 posted on 08/16/2009 8:22:28 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: Abby4116; count-your-change; xtinct

The vaccine companies are, in fact, immunized from lawsuits by legislations passed earlier this decade. The only recourse to someone injured or to the families of those killed by vaccines is to seek relief from the vaccine injury court, which really means having a government employee sit as judge while Dept of Justice lawyers act as the defense team.

The fact that Congress made a special effort to shield the companies is the smoke to the vaccine injury fire.


53 posted on 08/16/2009 8:24:33 AM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: married21

If that were effective in preventing flu, nobody would have the flu except for those who never come out except at night.

The study I referenced in my prior post #8 was based on supplemental Vitamin D, 2000 IU per day, and I think I’ll go with that instead of trusting good ol’ Mr. Sun, thanks very much anyway.


54 posted on 08/16/2009 8:25:15 AM PDT by mkjessup (Hey Comrade 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House!!!)
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To: mkcc30

ALL vaccine manufacturers are immune from lawsuits. There is just a big fund set up by the govt that pays out hush-money to those injured so the pharmaceutical companies/doctors never have to admit fault or pay. They basically say ‘you think your child was injured by X vaccine, but we will never admit it, so here’s some money. Just go away.’ I don’t know how anyone cannot see the evil going on here. This whole swine flu thing is waking a few people up to the reality, but it has been going on a long time.


55 posted on 08/16/2009 8:26:23 AM PDT by usmom
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To: hiredhand
He scanned through it and said, "Hold on a minute! We don't have a blood sample for DNA! We have to take care of that!" I said, "Oh really? Let me see!" I turned the records around in my direction and he stepped into the other room to get a blood test kid and I ran out the door!...WITH my records! :-)

VERY good! Did you find anything interesting in those records you might not have been expecting to find? (just curious)
56 posted on 08/16/2009 8:28:01 AM PDT by mkjessup (Hey Comrade 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House!!!)
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To: Blue Turtle

..does the government need to approve...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Hey back in late 60’s they instituted the ‘draft lottery’ so the ‘anointed’ would have a better chance to get out of it prior doing away with it entirely..
MAYBE they can have an ‘OLD FARTZ’ lottery to decide who will get treated or not. I shouldn’t say that so loud as these idiot pols would probably think WE would like that—
you know, some chance is better than no chance at all...

I for one PASS...just leave me be etc...


57 posted on 08/16/2009 8:34:46 AM PDT by xrmusn
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To: mkjessup
“WHY should we trust the Government”

Good point.

Given their past record of using American citizens as guinea pigs for their *experiments*, I doubt any sincerity on the Gov's part. Also given the *Socialist* ideas of population control, health care methods, etc. this group of cabinet members and advisers Obama has gathered together, I shudder at the possibilities.

58 posted on 08/16/2009 8:37:22 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: mkjessup

“If that were effective in preventing flu, nobody would have the flu except for those who never come out except at night.”
__________
Ok. Good point. I just figured that since many people get low on their vitamin D in winter, perhaps the “low-D” people are more likely to get it. Hence, an extra effort to get outside might be beneficial.

Other question: how much milk/fish/dairy would you have to drink to get 2000 IU per day?

Also, are you suggesting taking that dose every day until the flu crisis passes? Are there any side effects from that dosage?


59 posted on 08/16/2009 8:42:30 AM PDT by married21
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To: mkjessup
Yeah... my next stop from Aerospace Medicine was the main hospital and I lit off out the door running and did NOT turn around!

My wife is a BSN/RN and she reviewed my records before I had a copy made by the hospital. The copy "appeared" to be correct. I still have it!...just in case. :-) There wasn't anything in it that we didn't expect. I was a Tech Controller so we got "used and abused" for various oddball jobs outside of fixed comm tech control. I worked in a couple of hazardous waste storage areas a few times... once in a shut down nuke reactor...and was nearby a radioactive "oopsie" at WPAFB around 1990 or so.... "possibly" exposed to asbetos once...but it turned out to be NOT so...even though it's in my records as such!

Some of the things in my records caused me to REMEMBER the stuff that I had forgotten!... but there it was! :-)
60 posted on 08/16/2009 8:43:46 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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