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Repairs for Broken Systems - Citizens in California and New York are pushing for constitutional...
City Journal ^ | 12 August 2009 | John P. Avlon

Posted on 08/12/2009 10:56:14 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/12/2009 10:56:16 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

NEW YORK RESIDENTS SEE http://www.primarychallenge.org

GET RID OF NYSTATE GOVERNMENT


2 posted on 08/12/2009 10:57:49 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: neverdem
"Citizens in California and New York are pushing for constitutional conventions.Frustrated with steep budget deficits, unprecedented spending, and chronic government dysfunction"

HEY HEY HEY! 0bummer is just getting started on a Federal Level. Can't the "news" wait until after the HealthCareAbortion is implemented?

3 posted on 08/12/2009 11:00:21 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (UPS and FEDEX are doing fine. It's the Post Office that's always having problems. - 0bummer)
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To: neverdem
Momentum for a constitutional convention in the Golden State got underway in August 2008, when business leaders from the Bay Area Council took a trip to Sacramento

Buncha hooey. More corporate whores than anything else, trying to rid the State of the last vestiges of fiscal responsibility. Gotta "move forward" you know.

4 posted on 08/12/2009 11:12:27 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
New York Hot Dog Vendor Evicted for $310,000 in Overdue Rent

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

5 posted on 08/12/2009 11:15:38 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Carry_Okie
A state constitutional convention might not hurt either state
if they can get rid of the “pay a union thug or you can't work”.
6 posted on 08/12/2009 11:16:38 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: neverdem

CA might be a bad idea. I think they need 2/3rds for a budget. The 40% or less Repubs in the state govt stymie these budgets.

If they have CConv then the majority Dems could push through their budgets - never mind that there is no money.


7 posted on 08/12/2009 11:27:51 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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I expect they would be incredibly destructive in both states. Consider the numbers of “progressives” in New York and California. It’s easy to envision a new set of rules in which politicians may hold elected office for life in New York, and under which the aquatic dog fart snail enjoys the right to privacy and property in California. Granted the authority of constitutional law, such measures would be the death knell for both states, and the only state on an equally idiotic footing is Massachusetts.

In fact, it might be the best thing that could happen in the long term. Liberalism would finally destroy itself in a rainbow supernova. Sorry, all you normal people in those three states, but somebody’s got to deal with the stupid liberals, and you’ve got the highest concentrations of them. My advice is to flee before they start a constitutional convention. It portends disaster.


8 posted on 08/12/2009 11:30:39 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: neverdem
Frustrated with steep budget deficits, unprecedented spending

Nope, they likely want more of the same

9 posted on 08/12/2009 11:36:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: sig226

They’ll expect the other states to pay for it when they go totally under


10 posted on 08/12/2009 11:39:22 PM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem
Our Constitution is as close to perfect as possible.

It hasn't failed us. We have failed it.

11 posted on 08/12/2009 11:47:40 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: neverdem

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12 posted on 08/13/2009 1:26:30 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: neverdem

Ever notice how the scumbags and their Democrat newsrooms only wring their hands and holler that government is “broken” in places where the people refuse to let them confiscate more of their money?

These state governments are only “broken” because the scumbag politicians refuse to stop spending like drunken congressmen. Uh... Anyway, these “constitutional convention” schemes are nothing more than attempts to make it easier for the scumbags to confiscate more tax money from working, traditional American families.

Screw them all.


13 posted on 08/13/2009 1:52:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Here in Illinois a year or so ago, they tried to have a redo of our IL constitution, and it was the Dems that were urging that it be done. We are a totally Dem controlled state at the moment. They wanted to get their hands on the pension money funds to rob them for their various social agendas that the Dems wanted. They also wanted to gerrymander the district lines to further favor Dems. Be careful what you ask for when you allow a state to get their meathooks into a State constitution. Especially if it is all Dems controlling your state. Luckily, the Pubs and Independents and even a lot of liberals who realized it would also be their pension funds that would be raided voted against the attempted power and money grab. Now they have to wait many years to try again as the law in this State only allows such attempts to change the Consistution to be put to ballot every 10 years, or it may be every 20 years. Whichever. They can’t fool with it for a long time, thank goodness.


14 posted on 08/13/2009 1:57:05 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Who's the biggest Narcissist of all? One guess only....)
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To: sig226

Without a significant majority of citizens who believe in the principles of the Declaration of Independence (i.e. Governments are instituted to secure our inalienable rights) these efforts are doomed to fail. As long as most the people believe that the government is suppose to “help” people or as in the case of NY magically give them “free money” the downward spiral will continue.


15 posted on 08/13/2009 3:16:06 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: sig226
IIRC the CA supreme court took up the marriage between man and woman amendment. It ruled it was okay. That means the court can ultimately decide the contents of their constitution.

The federal scotus has also found amendments to state constitutions to be unconstitutional.

What is to prevent either state or federal supreme courts from slicing and dicing and tossing out elements of any new constitution they don't like? Nothing.

We live under a judicial tyranny.

16 posted on 08/13/2009 3:30:09 AM PDT by Jacquerie (We live under a judicial tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
if they can get rid of the “pay a union thug or you can't work”.

Why would a rat-gerrymandered state do that?

17 posted on 08/13/2009 4:54:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: neverdem

Ya don’t need a convention to decide to live in accord with the Constitution...a decision that would fix ANY state or Federal budget problems....freakin idjits.....

It MUST be the fault of the SYSTEM somewhere...it could’nt be that liberal ideaology and belief is a natural dead end to human affairs...that would mean they’d have to change...


18 posted on 08/13/2009 5:03:24 AM PDT by mo
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To: neverdem

Pinch me to see if I’m awake.


19 posted on 08/13/2009 5:15:27 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: neverdem

NYT headline reads...

New York Hot Dog Vendor Evicted for $310,000 in Overdue Rent (Gay rights group claims homophobia)


20 posted on 08/13/2009 6:24:01 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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