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Repairs for Broken Systems - Citizens in California and New York are pushing for constitutional...
City Journal ^ | 12 August 2009 | John P. Avlon

Posted on 08/12/2009 10:56:14 PM PDT by neverdem

Citizens in California and New York are pushing for constitutional conventions.

Frustrated with steep budget deficits, unprecedented spending, and chronic government dysfunction, citizens in a growing number of states are calling for constitutional conventions. In recent weeks, both former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and former New York governor Mario Cuomo have authored op-eds in the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, respectively, arguing that the political circus in Albany compels a constitutional convention. Such efforts are already well underway in California, alongside burgeoning drives in Alabama, Arizona, and Michigan. Altogether, 25 percent of the U.S. population lives in these five states. These growing grassroots movements are a sign of the times.

In New York, a five-week summer standoff in the state senate, characterized by party switches and backroom power-broker deals, ended up costing the state upwards of $125 million amid a legislative stalemate. In California, chronic budget shortfalls have become national news. With the third emergency budget deal in ten months temporarily closing a $26 billion budget gap, the Golden State suffers from an 11.6 percent unemployment rate, which reaches 15 percent in agricultural areas like Fresno. The state is caught in a vicious cycle of declining tax revenues from high tax rates, making each budget deal both painful and temporary.

Momentum for a constitutional convention in the Golden State got underway in August 2008, when business leaders from the Bay Area Council took a trip to Sacramento and found the state in the throes of a now-familiar budget crisis. They determined that only a state constitutional convention could cure its chronic structural problems. “At times of dysfunction such as this there tends to be a ‘throw the bums out’ impulse,” says John Grubb of Repair California, the civic group backed by the Bay Area Council that is pushing for the constitutional convention. “But we believe that if you throw these bums out, the next set of bums will have the same problems. That’s because the system is broken.” By using California’s ballot-initiative process, Repair California is bypassing the state legislature and putting the question of a constitutional convention to voters in November 2010.

California’s last constitutional convention took place in 1879, but the governing document has been amended 512 times since then through a combination of legislative action and ballot initiatives, which have contributed to the cost and dysfunction of state government. The document ballooned to over 75,000 words at one point, and it now authorizes 389 boards, commissions, and agencies with overlapping jurisdictions. This guarantees gridlock as well as the waste of taxpayer dollars.

Repair California’s proposed remedies include governance reform to strengthen the executive branch, budget reforms to rein in spending, and revenue distribution between state and local governments to prevent unfunded mandates. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, along with every major candidate to succeed him, supports a constitutional convention—with the notable exception of state insurance examiner Steve Poizner, a Republican who so far remains noncommittal on the issue.

New Yorkers are no strangers to the expense of multi-jurisdictional bodies or a stalemated state legislature, either. Policy reforms suggested in New York so far include increasing the governor’s power in budget negotiations; mandating spending caps and a legislative super-majority for tax increases; instituting term limits; and enacting non-partisan redistricting. Other changes might include addressing the state’s chronic inability to renegotiate pension obligations in the event of insolvency.

But in the Empire State, the process of organizing a constitutional convention is far more circuitous than in California, because New York doesn’t have a direct ballot-initiative process. Before voters can even weigh in on the idea, the state legislature must first vote on whether to put the question of a constitutional convention to voters. The whole process would likely take until 2012 to be implemented, at earliest—and that’s assuming state legislative leaders don’t succeed in stonewalling until a review is required by state law in 2017.

Bipartisan consensus is building in favor of a convention, however. So far supporters include not only Giuliani and Cuomo, but also former congressman Rick Lazio and former governor George Pataki. Governor Paterson has released a statement in support of a constitutional convention, while Democratic Assemblyman Richard Brodsky, Assembly Minority Leader Brian Kolb, and State Senator Marty Golden have all submitted legislation calling for a convention. But State Senate Majority Conference Leader John Sampson and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver have yet to declare their support, an ominous sign. Unless they become convinced that it’s in their political self-interest, they can be expected to block these reform efforts and defend the status quo.

Governor Paterson could take a decisive step by submitting constitutional-convention legislation when he calls the state legislature back into session in September to close a new multi-billion-dollar budget gap. There would be no better time to highlight the need for fundamental reform. Public frustration with Albany is hitting a new high, and elected officials should not feel insulated by their 98 percent re-election rate. The growing movement in favor of constitutional conventions across the country in a time of fiscal crisis contains a warning: if legislators won’t lead responsibly, citizens might start leading themselves.

John P. Avlon is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He served as chief speechwriter for New York mayor Rudy Giuliani and is the author of Independent Nation: How Centrists Can Change American Politics.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: budgetdeficits; conventions
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1 posted on 08/12/2009 10:56:16 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

NEW YORK RESIDENTS SEE http://www.primarychallenge.org

GET RID OF NYSTATE GOVERNMENT


2 posted on 08/12/2009 10:57:49 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: neverdem
"Citizens in California and New York are pushing for constitutional conventions.Frustrated with steep budget deficits, unprecedented spending, and chronic government dysfunction"

HEY HEY HEY! 0bummer is just getting started on a Federal Level. Can't the "news" wait until after the HealthCareAbortion is implemented?

3 posted on 08/12/2009 11:00:21 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (UPS and FEDEX are doing fine. It's the Post Office that's always having problems. - 0bummer)
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To: neverdem
Momentum for a constitutional convention in the Golden State got underway in August 2008, when business leaders from the Bay Area Council took a trip to Sacramento

Buncha hooey. More corporate whores than anything else, trying to rid the State of the last vestiges of fiscal responsibility. Gotta "move forward" you know.

4 posted on 08/12/2009 11:12:27 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
New York Hot Dog Vendor Evicted for $310,000 in Overdue Rent

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

5 posted on 08/12/2009 11:15:38 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Carry_Okie
A state constitutional convention might not hurt either state
if they can get rid of the “pay a union thug or you can't work”.
6 posted on 08/12/2009 11:16:38 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: neverdem

CA might be a bad idea. I think they need 2/3rds for a budget. The 40% or less Repubs in the state govt stymie these budgets.

If they have CConv then the majority Dems could push through their budgets - never mind that there is no money.


7 posted on 08/12/2009 11:27:51 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I expect they would be incredibly destructive in both states. Consider the numbers of “progressives” in New York and California. It’s easy to envision a new set of rules in which politicians may hold elected office for life in New York, and under which the aquatic dog fart snail enjoys the right to privacy and property in California. Granted the authority of constitutional law, such measures would be the death knell for both states, and the only state on an equally idiotic footing is Massachusetts.

In fact, it might be the best thing that could happen in the long term. Liberalism would finally destroy itself in a rainbow supernova. Sorry, all you normal people in those three states, but somebody’s got to deal with the stupid liberals, and you’ve got the highest concentrations of them. My advice is to flee before they start a constitutional convention. It portends disaster.


8 posted on 08/12/2009 11:30:39 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: neverdem
Frustrated with steep budget deficits, unprecedented spending

Nope, they likely want more of the same

9 posted on 08/12/2009 11:36:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: sig226

They’ll expect the other states to pay for it when they go totally under


10 posted on 08/12/2009 11:39:22 PM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem
Our Constitution is as close to perfect as possible.

It hasn't failed us. We have failed it.

11 posted on 08/12/2009 11:47:40 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: neverdem

bookmark


12 posted on 08/13/2009 1:26:30 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: neverdem

Ever notice how the scumbags and their Democrat newsrooms only wring their hands and holler that government is “broken” in places where the people refuse to let them confiscate more of their money?

These state governments are only “broken” because the scumbag politicians refuse to stop spending like drunken congressmen. Uh... Anyway, these “constitutional convention” schemes are nothing more than attempts to make it easier for the scumbags to confiscate more tax money from working, traditional American families.

Screw them all.


13 posted on 08/13/2009 1:52:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: GOP Poet

Here in Illinois a year or so ago, they tried to have a redo of our IL constitution, and it was the Dems that were urging that it be done. We are a totally Dem controlled state at the moment. They wanted to get their hands on the pension money funds to rob them for their various social agendas that the Dems wanted. They also wanted to gerrymander the district lines to further favor Dems. Be careful what you ask for when you allow a state to get their meathooks into a State constitution. Especially if it is all Dems controlling your state. Luckily, the Pubs and Independents and even a lot of liberals who realized it would also be their pension funds that would be raided voted against the attempted power and money grab. Now they have to wait many years to try again as the law in this State only allows such attempts to change the Consistution to be put to ballot every 10 years, or it may be every 20 years. Whichever. They can’t fool with it for a long time, thank goodness.


14 posted on 08/13/2009 1:57:05 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Who's the biggest Narcissist of all? One guess only....)
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To: sig226

Without a significant majority of citizens who believe in the principles of the Declaration of Independence (i.e. Governments are instituted to secure our inalienable rights) these efforts are doomed to fail. As long as most the people believe that the government is suppose to “help” people or as in the case of NY magically give them “free money” the downward spiral will continue.


15 posted on 08/13/2009 3:16:06 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: sig226
IIRC the CA supreme court took up the marriage between man and woman amendment. It ruled it was okay. That means the court can ultimately decide the contents of their constitution.

The federal scotus has also found amendments to state constitutions to be unconstitutional.

What is to prevent either state or federal supreme courts from slicing and dicing and tossing out elements of any new constitution they don't like? Nothing.

We live under a judicial tyranny.

16 posted on 08/13/2009 3:30:09 AM PDT by Jacquerie (We live under a judicial tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
if they can get rid of the “pay a union thug or you can't work”.

Why would a rat-gerrymandered state do that?

17 posted on 08/13/2009 4:54:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: neverdem

Ya don’t need a convention to decide to live in accord with the Constitution...a decision that would fix ANY state or Federal budget problems....freakin idjits.....

It MUST be the fault of the SYSTEM somewhere...it could’nt be that liberal ideaology and belief is a natural dead end to human affairs...that would mean they’d have to change...


18 posted on 08/13/2009 5:03:24 AM PDT by mo
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To: neverdem

Pinch me to see if I’m awake.


19 posted on 08/13/2009 5:15:27 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: neverdem

NYT headline reads...

New York Hot Dog Vendor Evicted for $310,000 in Overdue Rent (Gay rights group claims homophobia)


20 posted on 08/13/2009 6:24:01 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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