Posted on 08/11/2009 3:20:30 PM PDT by bareford101
Page 425 Lines 4-12 - Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consults. Think Senior Citizens end of life. Every five years, the elderly will have to attend a mandatory advanced care planning consultation for an explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end of life services. The consultation will be conducted more frequently if a significant change in health condition; including diagnosis of a chronic, progressive, life limiting disease, terminal diagnosis, life threatening injury or upon admission to a skilled nursing or long term care facility. In other words, if you are old, you will be consulted about what your options will be if you get sick, if healthcare would not be an option (see #7). .
Page 501 of the bill starts a section that indicates that $1 billion will be spent on comparative effectiveness research (THIS IS FROM EZEKIEL EMANUEL, Rahns brother and Obama health advisor) which is how the government evaluates relative merits of various treatments. In other words, rationing. This is tantamount to the government determining whether or not you are worth getting a particular treatment depending on your prognosis or age. Sec. 1401 Part D This is the same principle that life insurance uses,or used car dealers on the value of your car, i.e., how many miles, dents, replacements, etc. IT IS THE SAME PRINCIPLE AS CASH FOR CLUNKERS. EXCEPT NOW, we are the clunkers.
This plan would allow for government funded abortions. Since this bill would cover all procedures, abortion is included. There is no exception for abortion.
Section 3116:. Members of congress and unions would be exempt from this plan and not have to be a part of the healthcare plan. Recently, John Fleming, introduced H.R. 615 that stated that members that vote in favor of a government run healthcare must enroll under the public option. No democrat would sign on. If it is not good enough for congress, it is not good enough for us!.
$500 billion will be cut from senior healthcare to help pay for this bill. This will weaken Medicare, an organization already in trouble due to insufficient funds.
Hospitals and private healthcare facilities will not be able to collect money from the government plan unless they are public facilities.
Section 3116:. Members of congress and unions would be exempt from this plan and not have to be a part of the healthcare plan.
Wow. Just wow.
bttt
This guy says there is a section about the spacing of children.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6MIxyWu4vU
Anyone have the reference for that?
That will lead to telling you how many you can have...
Shame on you people criticizing this! Shame! Senior citizens should get the proper guidance on which Zyklon variant to choose from.
This is lousy legislation in ANY form. There is simply NO Constitutional authority for any of this crap; Medicare included.
These anti-Constitutional intrusions on our freedoms must be stopped.
We can effectively rein in government spending and government intervention in the private sector by demanding and forcing a return to Constitutional limitations on the Federal government. It can start with States’ assertion of the validity of the Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution.
It’s time to take back the country.
I read that somewhere but don’t remember where.
I don’t where I got that number. This site gives indepth infor. Waxman refused to allow a vote on adding the Amendment which would require Congress to be a part.
and the unions would be exempt from the health care tax.
http://newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd461.htm
Starting at the bottom of page 113:
(5) QUALIFIED INDIVIDUAL.
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I really appreciate this! I couldn’t find it ANYWHERE and I’ve been searching!!
I appreciate the input but I suggest people follow the format of the bill by citing the section number. That will make it easier to locate it in the bill.
It is in SEC. 3116. DEFINITIONS.
” including diagnosis of a chronic,..disease “
Diabetes, arthritis and shingles are chronic diseases .
Optimism and a good attitude are important factors in treatment and recovery.
I’m sure having the Government Grim Reaper
knocking on your door after any new diagnosis
is going to be a great morale booster...
And will send the absolutely wrong message .
Instead of bringing cheer and a care package to the shut ins, Barry’s Goons will probably arrive in a Smart Car mini hearse.
With casket brochures, cremation options and directives and a pen for naming new beneficiaries.
That’s Hussein with two s’s...
Maybe Barry’s plan is actually to increase suicides among seniors .
He’ll probably coordinate the Grim Reaper visits with the Census Bureau ,
so when the ACORNs arrive a few days later,
they’ll be yet another vacant house in a Republican zip code.
with all my heart, I believe that the obamanation is counting on suicides in order to cut out their “drain” on society. They don’t pay much in taxes, and don’t contribute to the “State”, only to their families... truth
what good is that in a collective?=satire
with all my heart, I believe that the obamanation is counting on old people suicides in order to cut out their “drain” on society. They don’t pay much in taxes, and don’t contribute to the “State”, only to their families... truth
what good is that in a collective society? =satire
I’ve looked through HR3200 and done many searches. I cannot find Section 3116. Can you tell us exactly which page number this section is on?
What page number is Section 3116 on?
Nevermind. It is not in HR3200. It is in the Kennedy version of the Senate Bill.
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