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Obama Pretty Blatantly Lies About Single Payer at New Hampshire Town Hall
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Posted on 08/11/2009 11:43:41 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama Pretty Blatantly Lies About Single Payer at New Hampshire Town Hall

"I have not said that I am a supporter of a single-payer system," Obama tells the crowd in New Hampshire.

The Wall Street Journal's Washington Wire, August 19, 2008: "Obama Touts Single-Payer System for Health Care":

Barack Obama said he would consider embracing a single-payer health-care system, beloved by liberals, as his plan for broader coverage evolves over time.

“If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system,” Obama told some 1,800 people at a town-hall style meeting on the economy.

In related news, we have always been at war with Eastasia.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: agenda; bhohealthcare; bhotownhalls; demllies; democrats; obamacare; singlepayer; socializedmedicine
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To: Sub-Driver

Anyone have a link to video of this recent comment?


21 posted on 08/11/2009 2:31:55 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: NEMDF

No for profit can survive in competition against a government program. With no profit motive and an endless ability to print money the government can mandate expensive medical benefits that it doesn’t ever pay for but the private plan needs to provide, at a government mandated fee. The government will them accuse the private plans of failing due to their own greed in trying to make a profit.


22 posted on 08/11/2009 2:52:48 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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I would love to see Jon Lovitz do an imitation of Obama as the compulsive liar. “That’s the ticket!”


23 posted on 08/11/2009 3:11:17 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: Sub-Driver

His actual wording was “...in this debate.”

So be ready when you’re arguing with libs.


24 posted on 08/11/2009 4:39:36 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Logical me

Because that turd wants more control over our lives.

Bingo

25 posted on 08/11/2009 6:18:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal paid protesters ...http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/2310139/replies?c=22)
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To: Sub-Driver
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26 posted on 08/11/2009 8:31:44 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes, Obama is a LIAR!

Yes, Obama WANTS a single payer government run and managed health care system.

People don’t want this or the kind of neglect in the “care” or “end of life counseling” with government counselors.

In his own words -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk

he states this goal – single payer health care.


27 posted on 08/11/2009 9:15:51 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

It seems to me, these are the major questions we need to ask:

1. How much pressure is Obama and company under to ram this through?

2. To the Dems, how much of this bill is “would like have” and how much is “must have”?

For #1, we need to understand the Dems’ MOTIVATIONS. How much is driven by ideology and how much is driven by pressure groups? Unemployment is high, so many of their supporters are either without coverage or are paying for COBRA coverage. Of those, what is the breakdown — Dem support has always been comprised of voting blocs, so which ones are involved? How much pressure is being placed on Dems from the Left? The Hard Left?

For #2, this is where we really need to be vigilant. An old tactic is to put forth what you would like to have, let the outcry ensue, then put everyone to sleep with a watered-down version — while planning to add to it over time. We all know it as boiling the frog slowly.

In this case, these two factors might conflict, since incrementalism takes time, and the worse unemployment gets, the more pressure traditional Dem blocs will place on them (”give us free healthcare or we’re staying home on the next election!”). So while on the one hand we can’t let our guard down for a second, on the other hand it’s much more in our interest to “starve the beast” — as it heats up the pressure cooker.

The Dems might be committing political suicide, or it could be a rope-a-dope. Or they could be stuck between competing demands. We need to be agile and watchful since we don’t know what’s going on in their heads.


28 posted on 08/11/2009 9:23:58 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda arm.)
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To: a fool in paradise

INCREMENTALISM.

The same thing Ronald Reagan said about Socialized Medicine 50 years ago.


29 posted on 08/12/2009 5:33:24 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: keats5
Your husband is correct - but that's only part of the story.

Obama is being utterly disingenuous about his plans for health care (but I'm sure you knew that). Not only will private companies face predatory pricing from the "public option" within the proposed National Insurance Exchange, but they will be subject to "Trojan Horse" provisions embedded within the legislation itself.

These rules prevent private insurers from adding new subscribers and allow the government to invalidate any plans that seeks to change their coverages - as they must in order to compete.

The Heritage Foundation commissioned a detailed analysis of the Obama plan, and the results are clear and unambiguous: You Will Lose Your Current Insurance. Period. End of Story.

30 posted on 08/12/2009 6:00:42 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Windcatcher
It seems to me, these are the major questions we need to ask:

1. How much pressure is Obama and company under to ram this through?

EXTREME PRESSURE.

2. To the Dems, how much of this bill is “would like have” and how much is “must have”?

They don't work like that. It's always a “crisis” and rushed through without reading the dam bill. Under Oboma they don't want YOU or those passing it to READ IT and it's working. It worked for the bailouts too!

For #1, we need to understand the Dems’ MOTIVATIONS. How much is driven by ideology and how much is driven by pressure groups? Unemployment is high, so many of their supporters are either without coverage or are paying for COBRA coverage. Of those, what is the breakdown — Dem support has always been comprised of voting blocs, so which ones are involved? How much pressure is being placed on Dems from the Left? The Hard Left?

Power and control. It is the ideology - leftist - and it's always about them controlling you. Animal Farm is a good read ... This is the HARD LEFT agenda. THat should be obvious by now.

For #2, this is where we really need to be vigilant. An old tactic is to put forth what you would like to have, let the outcry ensue, then put everyone to sleep with a watered-down version — while planning to add to it over time. We all know it as boiling the frog slowly.

That's been going on for years. All the GOP compromises have lead us to this situation. Obama is exploiting it. OBama hates this country. He wants to “spread the wealth around” GLOBALLY. He wants us to be impotentent, militarily and financially. He's doing to our economy what terrorists would like to see happen. The U.S. collapsing.

In this case, these two factors might conflict, since incrementalism takes time, and the worse unemployment gets, the more pressure traditional Dem blocs will place on them (”give us free healthcare or we’re staying home on the next election!”). So while on the one hand we can’t let our guard down for a second, on the other hand it’s much more in our interest to “starve the beast” — as it heats up the pressure cooker.

We're past “incremental ism”. He's going for the gold. The mpojority of people, Dems included do NOT want this.

The Dems might be committing political suicide, or it could be a rope-a-dope. Or they could be stuck between competing demands. We need to be agile and watchful since we don’t know what’s going on in their heads.

They are so power hungry and out of touch with people that this just might happen IF and I emphasize IF, the vote is still good. ACORN is WELL FUNDED and has GROWN under OBAMA!

31 posted on 08/12/2009 7:34:45 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Windcatcher

Here is where OBAMA states he wants a SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. Here’s the video of THAT and how he is questioned on that and TRIES TO WIGGLE OUT OF. He is PATHETIC on his perversion of WHAT HE SAID:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDAPLb-HVcM

AFLCIO SINGLE PAYER HEATH CARE PAYER VIDEO IN CONTEXT!
LOOK and LISTEN TO IT.

He is CLEAR - he makes the stance for a SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE by the Government!

LOOK and LISTEN to OBAMA CLEARLY STATE THIS on VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

OBAMA CAMPAIGNED ON THIS!

OBAMA IS A LIAR!

Yeah, report me to his freaking “snitch” website.

OBAMA IS A LIAR!


32 posted on 08/12/2009 1:21:30 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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