Posted on 08/10/2009 5:51:57 AM PDT by abigail2
Probably the most succinct summary of the birth certificate issue, as well as other details of BHOs life and deceptions.
I’ve always found that a person who lies when it really doesn’t matter will tell some real whoppers when it does!
Worth repeating....
How can you be? You have no PROOF!! In fact, his Kenyan grandmother unequivocally states she remembers well the date and exact spot he was born. You go to great lengths to prove the grandmothers honesty, then dismiss her allegations as to Soerto's birthplace?
You must get terrible migraines from your brain cells fighting against themselves.
The Birther's want Obozo to PROVE he is a natural born citizen. It is precisely because of all the lies and deception surrounding Obozo that this question be satisfied.
The COLB that Obama produced is NOT proof of being born in Hawaii, it is only proof of being born- somewhere. It does NOT state he was born in Hawaii, it only states the COLB was applied for and issued in Hawaii. ANYONE could get a COLB in Hawaii at the time, regardless of where they were born, or even a citizen of the USA. It is merely a certificate that is required for "residents" in Hawaii to produce if applying for things like welfare, or "foodstamps" to feed a family. You can't just claim you have 6 kids when you walk into the foodstamp store, or whereever it is that foodstamps and government cheese are handed out.
I didn’t know that...do you have a source?
Hey, McCarthy isn’t the enemy...cool your jets...save your righteous indignation for those who truly deserve it...they would love to see us attacking each other for petty things.
In my opinion:
Yes. Obama’s failure to reveal the BC is more telling than the Clinton's failure to reveal whatever he is hiding.
It would seem Obama is hiding something his BC would reveal, something damaging even if it doesn't make him ineligible. Of course the Clintons would have gotten that information out during the election if they could have. They couldn't for some reason which, like the info on the BC, is unknown to us. But that in itself doesn't mean there's nothing to reveal.
Who would have thought Democrats would have put up another liar, who turns out to have fabricated his entire life even more so than John F('n)Kerry did, immediately following losing an election for that very reason?
Or is it because there aren't any Democrats whose names and lives aren't a complete fabrication in order to cover up their felony criminal past, or true identity as a foreign communist infiltrator?
There were more than just a few. I wasn't the only one to have pointed it out, during the course of the election.
Never said he was. That doesn't mean you can't question his reasoning and assertions however. We aren't Democrats, (at least I'm not)who blindly accept everything fellow democrats say.)
Righteous indignation? Attacking?
Railla Odinga is Obama’s cousin. As far as source, run it through your favorite search engine.
Or, if you like, I can do that and find a link to post here for you.
The BBC reported it, I recall that much.
Probably the most succinct summary of the birth certificate issue, as well as other details of BHOs life and deceptions.
I’ve always found that a person who lies when it really doesn’t matter will tell some real whoppers when it does!
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Is Obama's grandmother's signature on Obama's 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate---the one with the spaces for a doctor signature and a hospital name---as a witness to Obama's birth?
1. Could that be the main reason that Obama is spending $500,000 to $1,000,000, and counting, to have high-priced lawyers fight to keep Obama's long form birth certificate and Obama's Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records out of the courts and out of the dirty hands of birthers?
2. 1961 Hawaii peculiar birth certificate rules: Remember, way back in 1961, Hawaii allowed parents to merely mail in a child's birth certificate if the child was NOT born in a hospital. The doctor and midwife spaces could be left empty if a doctor or midwife was not present at the birth.
3. However, as I understand it, someone had to sign as a witness to the home birth.
4. My theory is this: Obama was not born in a Hawaii hospital, and that is one reason he is fighting so hard to keep his long form birth certificate from being displayed in court for everyone to see.
5. But if Obama was not born in a hospital and not under the care of a doctor or midwife, then who was the witness who signed the birth certificate stating that he/she was a witness to the birth before the Obama birth certificate was mailed in to the Hawaii vital statistics department?
6. There had to be a witness signature. How about Grandma Dunham being that witness?
7. Grandma Dunham signed it? How about this theory: The main reason that Obama does not want us to see his 1961 Hawaii long form birth certificate is that Grandma Dunham signed it, where she stated that she was a witness to Obama's birth.
8. So, I say this: Obama must stand up as a man and allow Hawaii to release his 1961 birth certificate so that we can see if a doctor signed the birth certificate, or if Grandma Dunham, Obama's grandmother, signed the birth certificate.
But for the comment I do so apologize, was not meant for the poster but for the redundancy of the story by a coat tail commentary.
BTTT - and for later reading ...
And that is really the point. The so-called "revealed proofs" of Obama's supposed Hawaiian birth amount to essentially zero. NONE of them would be accepted as legal proof of natural-born citizenship. The ONLY legally-attested such proofs are the sworn statements that Obama made to the various state offices in charge of elections that he "satisified the requirements" to run for President.
This controversy is very easily eliminated. All that is necessary is for the Hawaiian "Director of Health" (or whatever her correct title is---the gal in charge of birth records) to issue a NOTARIZED STATEMENT to the effect that she has examined Obama's birth records, and he was, in fact, born on US soil. She could accomplish the same by going to any judge, being put under oath, and making a verbal statement to the same effect. THESE steps would constitute "proof". Newspaper birth announcements, on-line images, and similar items do not constitute PROOF.
Thanks
Let us stipulate, for the moment, that the real, vault-copy of the birth certificate clearly shows the man known as barack obama was born in a hospital in Honolulu.
Then why is he so afraid to release this document for public awareness and the historical record? I believe there is a very simple, straight-forward answer for that which is shown on the birth certificate that is “embarrassing” to Obama and his campaign operatives. How many votes did Obama receive from Blacks and Guilty-White Liberals for no other reason than they could feel good because they would be voting for the “First Black President”. I contend the number would be millions, probably the winning plurality that put him in office.
Now go back in time to last summer 2008, a few months prior to the election. What if the campaign had actualy released the real birth certificate to the public? Remember, Obama’s mother was White and his father was partially Black and Arab. It would not be unreasonable if the birth certificate indicates baby Obama as “Caucasion”. If so, then the seemingly relentless campaign to keep the birth certificate out of the public eye makes sense. Conservatives assumed he was trying to get past a constitutional requirement. But what if he was simply trying to hide his official race because his campaign narrative of his election being “historical” would have been negated and rendered untrue?
Plenty. This was well known long before Obama won the democrat primary. It was posted many many times. There is nothing McCarthy mentions that wasn't known long ago by most Freepers who were trying to expose Obama for who he really is, writing to MSM, commenting on their reader comments only to have them scrubbed or screened, or the paper print a story to refutew the allegations.
That is why people like me have been complaining about media hiding Obama's identity from the very beginning, printing only glory stories and elevating Obama to Messiah status.
Much of this information was easily found at first, now most if not all has been sanitized from the internet completely. If not for freepers saving screen shots, there would be no way to prove thee facts now.
Some stuff may surface in a few years in web archives like way back machine, but until then, it's caught in limboland.
LOL! THanks, I never thought of that...or what if it says Arab?!!
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