Posted on 08/09/2009 8:15:18 PM PDT by MissesBush
Edited on 08/09/2009 9:29:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Developing.No details yet. Drudge only has the headline.
This ugly attack on average Americans exercising their free speech rights may prove to be the Democratic Congress's Stalingrad. I guarantee you Pelosi would not have published this without Obama's approval. This contempt for political opposition and Americans uneasy about the Democrats's healthcare plans goes all the way to the Oval Office. Is this the kind of "bipartisanship" and "unity" Obama and the Democrats promised, attacking hard working Americans as being "un-American?" Is this the change we can believe in?
Democrats regularly attacked Bush and Republicans for intolerance to opposition when Bush was president. I sure never heard any leading Republican governing official call the president's opponents "un-American" or to publish an ugly broadside to that effect. The media would have gone crazy on any Republican who did. But I'm sure the media will ignore this and go back to obsessing about Rush comparing Obama's logo to a swastika. It seems now not a bad observation now that we're seeing the administration and the Democrats's fetid intolerance to political opposition beginning to come into bloom.
It cost more to hire writers and teach them how to sound like "concerned citizens"... People willing to work for what the dems are paying aren't "top of the line" - and few even get those advertised salaries - most are probably minimum wage...
It cost more to hire writers and teach them how to sound like "concerned citizens"... People willing to work for what the dems are paying aren't "top of the line" - and few even get those advertised salaries - most are probably minimum wage...
Dammit, I was trying to eat my lunch.
It is bad enough that we have to quote her, please don’t make me look at her.
Not verbose! (Compared to me)
No, I think you’ve drawn quite a valid distinction. (eg; “Stop the War” vs “baby killers”) At least as far as name-calling goes. I maintain that name calling isn’t going to win this for us. Maybe we need “conservative affirmative action”. We need a partial free pass on some of our ideas instead of being shut out like pariahs.
But I am turning over in my mind how the current situation compares. Unsuccessfully, so far. I think most of us on this forum believe the health plan “IS” morally repugnant...not just anti-Constitutional, anti-freedom. We’re just not as free to blather the most vile insults our minds can come up with. I am just happy the other side has commandeered “Nazis” with Pelosi’s “swastika” remark. Good on ‘em. May they bathe in it. I am most heartened by the thugs at the townhall meetings. I think those images have the most conversion power of anything I’ve seen to date.
I don’t fault the health protesters, I think they are a mix of people who find the faux bill dishonest and those who find it morally repugnant. I think it is patriotic to make either claim.
Your comment about pariahs touches on what is on my mind today. I have worked for people and organizations that display this administrations type of behavior. “The fact that you find fault with my idea means you are being abusive to me and don’t want my idea to work. You want to destroy me and I am all that is good. I will remove you from the committee or panel etc. and then things will go smoothly and good will progress” I recall one person single handedly destroying a large company by refusing to hear of problems. She actually reported my boss to the director because my boss gently raised the issue, in private, that meant her idea would fail and be damaging to the company. He did it gently in a collegial manner. She pretended to listen. Thanked him and went to the director to complain that “George says my plan won’t work, I don’t want him on my team anymore”. Fortunately my director said “Well, don’t you WANT to know if something will stop your plan from working? Isn’t that important for you to know?” Again she pretended to listen, smiled and thanked my director and left to go to the next level and have my boss sucessfully removed. About 500 million dollars into the critical project and it is unworkable - but talk to this woman and she will tell you with absolute confidence it is a complete success - facts don’t matter.
(see what happens when you let me off the hook for verbosity?)
Her behavior is typical of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Name calling with DSMIV diagnoses won’t help but my assertion is that saying that this administration, and Obama in particular, has NPD means I believe that there WILL BE NO GETTING THROUGH TO THESE PEOPLE because it harms their ego and sense of ominpotence and that’s really all that matters to them. Controlling us.
And today, I sit here marveling because they are showing us EXACTLY HOW they intend to administer single payer care if they pass it against our will. They will do what they will to us medically, violate our privacy, rob us of human dignity and ignore and demonize us if we object. They are modeling their administrative style - showing us how they plan to speak to us (ignore us, actually) once they control our medical coverage. Facts don’t matter to them - only the need to control us matters to them. Because they see themselves as all that is good in the world.
I’ve dealt with tough insurance companies before - but none has ever had the complete mindset and sweeping power that this administration will have over our lives. IF they were smart, they would have pretended to bother to explain things to us, make modifications to appease us until we were caught in their trap - many Obamabots would have signed on. But they began by beating us with the hobbles and chains to make us accept for our own good...hobbles and chains. And then all the opportunities it would afford them - rewarding lobbyists just might mean that your dear old auntie IS approved for that hip replacement after all! Denying treatment to those who oppose them might just be a good use for ‘fishy’ databases. Oh these last ideas will be considered off the richter scale in many circles, but their demonstrated behavior in other spheres makes it perfectly reasonable. Because facts matter.
I think you’re right on the money. I think the separate elements of this class of thuggish behavior form OUR “teachable moment”. In no way do I fault the protestors.
I think that the takeaway here, at least potentially, is the gift that keeps on giving. Because it has conversion power. The proponents of anything are a spectrum of those who vote their pocketbooks, those who vote their principles, and those who vote their fears. Finally we have a nice, wide, yet simplistic picture of how things will be under 0bamacare. You’re gonna be shut up, beat up, or ridiculed unless you go along. Speak up and you’ll be ratted out, right to the White House. Get in someone’s face with your concerns and purple-shirted thugs will arrive on the scene to physically intimidate you. The heavy-handed way this is being handled by the proponents gives me great hope that the true nature of this ghoulish thing can penetrate past the goofy utopianism of the takers.
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