The IRONY is that the location WASN'T in Doggett's district. (Take a minute and read that one again.)
So Basil got there and we talked to some YRC, some people against the bill and most of those had read it, researched some things, several (like me) printed out the whole thing and was reading it. They knew what they were talking about.
One older gent , pro-public option, said he knew it was going to be rationed, he was for that and didn't see how it could be otherwise with babyboomers coming up and that's the way it was to be. He was OK with Pg 620. (tho more on that later- with someone else)
He didn't like the bank acct thing nor that all officers and employees of the Health Care system would be giving the personal and financial of all Americans.
No one wanted to say why they need access to the bank acct if it is a “single-payer system) so when you go to the hospital money will be taken from you acct anyway. (Sounds like double dipping) Except for one guy said, “well they have to get the money somewhere, from you somehow”. Yes and that scares me.
I went to take the poll with one lady who had a sign that was something like I can't choose my DR, hospital other stuff and ended up with the word NAZI at the end. 2 Jewish YOUNG men came up and started in with her about usurping the word and minimizing the word Nazi. I could kinda see his point but this bill is fascist and he can't see it. I let him jump on to her and she was holding her own and later tried, really tried, to talk to this very young kid who had studied a lot, had a LOT of information in his head, (you know how it is) gets REALLY angry and low yelling but just so very passionate that his fingers & hands were shaking. Been there, done that.
HERE IS THE CHALLENGE TO FREEPERS: This intense young man (I figure about 18 yrs old) was demanding where in the bill it talks about “eugenics”. It doesn't have to say the word, but just that they intend to cut off treatment or kill those who are deaf, infirm, handicap etc. I haven't looked up the defination.
I had him look at page 620, which worries me that they will go after those with high cost diseases (I read AIDS and diabetics etc), Both of them questioned me about the parts I didn't highlight and claim that because I didn't highlight all the parts on that page and I'm reading it 180 degrees off. I asked if he trusted the Government to decide these decisions and even if it says that now, when “the Secretary” fleshes out the little in this bill, will it still say that or be the 180 away from what is said? I fear they will start rationing right there. The kid doesn't think so.
Please freepers who are looking at the whole bill, send me the page numbers of where you think the eugenics will be activated. And post it here, just in case he might see it.
Of course it was hours later that I remembered one of the new CZARS is a big eugenics guy and thinks it is OK to abort up to the child being 2 years old. If that isn't eugenics, I don't know what is. So much info, so little time to remember it at the right time.
Then there was the beautiful Norma (not her real name) she and I sat down and I asked her the Rush's poll questions. She admitted that she hadn't researched the bill (or really enough of history) to be able to answer the questions. I said, no problem, just use your common sense and think about whether you think the US Government has the right to vote for these things. I asked about the National ID Healthcard. That didn't seem to scare her.
I asked about the real-time access to her bank acct. She said, “don't they have that right now?”. She has draws, that she has OKed. Not really seemed disturbed by the Officers and employees of the HC plan can have access to her info.
She said, “They say (Obama) that people can keep their private HC.” I said he hasn't read the bill, I have, now who are you going to go to for your sources? Someone who hasn't read the bill? Or someone who has?
I gave her a copy of the Constitution. I wish I had said to please read the Dec. of Ind. I pretty much have said all those things in my emails to Doggett.
I weep for this country. Hopefully, some will be encouraged to check it out for themselves.
Thanks for being there!
Thanks for the report.
my poll questions:
DOGGETT TOWNHALL MEETING interviews
This is what the bill says. do you YES/Agree NO/disagree that the US should pass this?
I asked about 20 (out of maybe 200-300 attendees) the questions.
Do you live in Doggett’s dist.? 13 - yes, 11-no (most were the pro-option people but not all.)
were you bussed here? yes- none no- 20
were you paid to be here? yes- none no- 20
have you read/researched the HC bill? yes- 18 no- 5
have you called/emailed Dogget before? yes-9 no-3
have you been to Townhalls before? yes- 11 no-5
How far did you drive to get here? 15 min. 6, 30 min. 9,
45 min. 3 and 1 hour 4
How did you find out about this?
Republican 1
Democrats none claimed
Doggett contacted you? none
you called Doggett? 2
insurance co? none claimed
ACORN? SEIU? UNION? none claimed
TV none Radio 2, Newspaper- 5
SwiftBoaters? none claimed
9-12ers? 1
MoveOn.org none claimed
other? 3
phone 3
What party are you?
R-6
D-3
Ind? -3
Lib.- 2
Green- 2
Constitution part 1
Conservative 7
are you having fun being a community organizer?
11 yes, I said it was an education.
Bat Lady, do I understand correctly that even the union THUGS will lose their private health car under this proposal? Only senators and congress are exempt, right? And if so, why are we not telling the union thug people that? I’m sure they think that because their union bosses are behind it, that their health care will not be affected.
Thanks for being there and for reading the whole bill.
How many printer cartridges did you have to replace to print the whole thing? I don’t want to burn through the cartridges so I sift through the bill and print pertinent pages.
Excellent post...thanks.
You go girls!
I REALLY admire your efforts. You have much more patience than I would have had. :) THANK YOU!