Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Grandma will get run over by Obama.
1 posted on 08/09/2009 2:39:50 PM PDT by WhiteCastle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: WhiteCastle

“Grandma got run over by Socialized Healthcare” might be a song there


2 posted on 08/09/2009 2:42:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

$4000 a month drug, and we wonder why socialism is taking root.


3 posted on 08/09/2009 2:46:04 PM PDT by DonaldC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

TFA says the woman was a lifelong smoker. Hmmm. Didn’t we raise cigarette taxes to pay for their treatment?

Still, wowsers — pretty lame treatment of her by the bureaucracy. In any event, get ready for the ObamaCare “DMV agent” making decisions on when you may die. After all, this bill has been lobbyist approved.


4 posted on 08/09/2009 2:53:06 PM PDT by Sam_Damon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle
Copious-red-herrings alert. When everything is reduced to price, priorities are distorted and misperceived. The very debate itself is "socialized," which is no small part of the problem of endemic mindset of "socialization" that seems to have swept us like a plague of late.

Insurance is not a birthright, nor is any drug in particular. But most of all the issue of cost is device that derails the issue from its moral essentials.

5 posted on 08/09/2009 2:53:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

The best cure is euthanasia?

This is creepy. On a scale of one to ten, it rates about a twelve or thirteen.

This is not even hospice care, it is move the animals through the kill chute.

And who knows, the cancer may go into remission on its own even WITHOUT the $4,000 a month drug regimen. I understand some of the alternative medicines are reporting pretty surprising results.

But when you take away all hope, what is there?


9 posted on 08/09/2009 3:00:21 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never let an inanimate object know that you are in a hurry.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle
More on "Tarceva" here.
10 posted on 08/09/2009 3:07:40 PM PDT by johniegrad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

Evidently, the drug company ponied up free medication for this woman. But I have a question. She is a great-grandmother. To me, that means she has an extensive family. Why are they not helping out with the costs? Part of being a proponent of subsidiarity (which I assume most Freepers are—it just means having the smallest human unit possible responsible for processes and activities) is having people rely on their families first, before they turn to their neighbors and then to total strangers.

I suspect that the woman’s family, along with a church community, could have handled a large part of the expense of this treatment. But they are never confronted with that question, because we have indeed “socialized” our minds to expect the government/large corporations to take care of us.

OTOH, we do need to have conversations about the marginal costs of care. $16,000 for a projected best-case scenario of six extra months of life. Would we spend $160,000?

At what point is a payer of any kind (government or insurance company) justified in denying payment for unproven treatment or very small increments of benefit? Just askin...


14 posted on 08/09/2009 3:47:08 PM PDT by pharmamom (Queen. Visit the Queendom: www.whenwearequeen.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

I wonder if they want the $50 up front? maybe they take checks.........


17 posted on 08/09/2009 3:58:13 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

She still has an option at this point. In another 10 years, the ‘medical team’ will make the decision for folks like this so they don’t have to worry about their options.

Involuntary euthanasia is already being carried out in Europe.


18 posted on 08/09/2009 4:07:21 PM PDT by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle
Grandma will get run over by Obama.

Thank you for the fine post WhiteCastle


Great Slide Show of ObamaCare and Images of President "the Joker/Zero"

Click Here to watch this great slide show and the video clip of Sarah Palin!

(Look what ObamaCare Will do to Seniors!)


(Look The Worst President in U.S. history (alias - THE JOKER Wants to do to Seniors)!)


Run Sarah Run!
(for president that is)

21 posted on 08/09/2009 4:26:47 PM PDT by B-Cause (It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.

**This is a high volume ping list! (sign of the times)**


26 posted on 08/09/2009 6:32:23 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle
On average this drug would extend her life 2 months.

If I was her doctor I would not have presented her the option.

But, that'd be between doc a patient...not the government.

27 posted on 08/09/2009 6:39:44 PM PDT by Mariner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

although this makes the insurance companies really bad, it needs to be pointed out. (I hate giving Obama ammo to make ins companies look worse, but a spade is a spade)

yet in comparison, this woman does have alternatives and can take these people to court.
That is something that she Can never do with Obamacare. It is outlawed in HR 3200, govt word is law, no opinions, no arbitration, no courts. Nothing.


28 posted on 08/09/2009 6:49:56 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle; All

If Oregon is trying to cut costs - why didn’t they offer her a 35-cent bullet ???

Way cheaper than $50 drugs ...


31 posted on 08/09/2009 11:02:06 PM PDT by Lmo56
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

Where does the wholly preventable, extremely expensive disease AIDS stand on the priority list?


37 posted on 08/10/2009 9:06:14 AM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle
Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the insurance company refused to pay.

Note that they don't mention that Oregon Health Plan is a government-run health plan until well into the article.

38 posted on 08/10/2009 9:10:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

Based on the ABC article on this, the Oregon public health insurance this woman has is only for those under the poverty line, ostensively those unable to get any other form of insurance. Clearly, any effort to ever extend this kind of plan to everyone should be fought tooth and nail.

However, given that this is essentially “tax payer funded basic insurance for poor people,” I’m not sure it’s wrong to deny a $4k per month drug that might only add a couple of months to ones life.

Is it?


39 posted on 08/11/2009 5:51:21 AM PDT by sand lake bar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
Oregon Ping

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.

40 posted on 08/11/2009 3:53:20 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

41 posted on 08/11/2009 4:05:47 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: WhiteCastle

Bump for truth!


42 posted on 08/11/2009 4:19:29 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (UPS and FEDEX are doing fine. It's the Post Office that's always having problems. - 0bummer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson