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1 posted on 08/08/2009 8:38:50 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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“For Slovenian, press one: for Polish, press two, for Italian, press three.”


2 posted on 08/08/2009 8:41:33 AM PDT by La Lydia
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Now they come for the money and soon the free healthcare.

One of the great benefits of multilingual education and multilingual ballots. vote for what freebie you want next year.


3 posted on 08/08/2009 8:42:54 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid)
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If you get a chance to fly out of El Paso to Ontario or Phoenix, sit by the window and look down when the airplane banks out over Jauarez. The slum shacks you see down below is what Mexico wants to bring to us. The influx of Mexicans is not about improving anything in the US, it is about converting the US into Mexico. Therein lies the problem.


4 posted on 08/08/2009 8:43:11 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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Hasn’t anyone ever heard of REQONQUISTA?

http://michellemalkin.com/2006/03/27/welcome-to-reconquista/

Welcome to Reconquista
By Michelle Malkin • March 27, 2006 09:42 AM ***scroll for updates…Bush warns against stoking anti-immigrant feelings. Wants a “civil debate.” Video here…Ok. Tell that to the divisive militants below…***

As Mickey Kaus points out, the reporters at the Los Angeles Times (and all other major media, for that matter) have downplayed the radical ethnic separatism that characterized the pro-illegal immigration rallies over the weekend. While the Times misleadingly asserted that the Los Angeles rally “featured more American flags than those from any other country,” its reporters conveniently ignored marchers with extremist signs and banners advocating America-undermining concepts of reconquista and Aztlan:


5 posted on 08/08/2009 8:44:22 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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Today's Immigrants Are Different from Waves Past. ...The large influx of Hispanic immigrants after 1965 represents a unique assimilation challenge

Hispanic immigrants (both legal and illegal) are here in such large numbers that most don't feel the need to assimilate. Plus there's a pervasive attitude among them that they're merely reclaiming land that's rightfully theirs. ...which of course further discourages assimilation.

6 posted on 08/08/2009 8:49:27 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Four or five generations is probably about right. Where I come from there was a great immigration of French Canadians from the 1870s into the 1920s. There was virtually no assimilation until the generation born in the 1950s and 60s. Even that group speaks English with a French accent...but their kids don't. They don;t even speak French.

My theory is that the group was so large that it formed its own society and as Quebec is so close, there was a constant and continuing connection with the old country...sort of like with the Mexicans. The Irish, Greeks, Poles, Jews etc didn't have that. I can say, however, that for recent immigrants from just about anywhere avoiding assimilation and staying connected to the old country is a snap with satellite TV and the internet.

7 posted on 08/08/2009 8:51:25 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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Even the later European immigrants moved this country left and led to where we are today.

The immigration from 1840 to 1920 doomed America and created the path to a future that the original American people would never have accepted and have always voted against.


9 posted on 08/08/2009 8:54:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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So why do Hispanics, on average, not assimilate? Theories abound. Popular explanations from the left include the legacy of white racism, labor-market discrimination, housing segregation, and poor educational opportunities. Those on the right tend to cite enforced multiculturalism, ethnic enclaves, and a self-perpetuating culture of poverty. One would need a whole book to sort out these competing explanations, but we can safely say that none of them, even if true, suggests easy solutions. Social scientists have not devised any set of programs that effectively spurs assimilation.

BULLS**T!!!!!

The reason that they're not assimilating (and entering the societal mainstream and prospering) is because, thanks to "social scientists" and "do-gooders" on the left, they don't have to! When my great grandparents (on my father's side) and grandparents (on my mother's side) arrived in the USA, they HAD to enter society! They had to learn to speak English, and other than family and religious assistance, they had to make it on their own. There were no "social programs" for them. They were forced to help themselves. By making things "easier" for immigrants, like allowing them to fill out government assistance forms in their native languages, we ensure that these immigrants will be on the public dole for generations, and that those generations will not be able to speak, read, or write English, ensuring that they become, and their decedents remain, an underclass.

Mark

12 posted on 08/08/2009 9:04:32 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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My Grandparents came here from Sicily, BOTH sides.

My parents both went on to be successful American citizens. Their children went also went on to be successful. My Grandparents taught themselves English and encouraged their children to blend in because they were official U.S. natural born citizens. UNLIKE Obummer.

As a public school teacher who once taught in a inner city school, I would often hear some Mexican students refer to this country as really belonging to MEXICO. I would try to explain to them the history, but they would have none of it and continue their non-assimilation. My guess is their opposition is permanent.

This is sad for our country. It may in fact one day resemble Mexico.

13 posted on 08/08/2009 9:06:34 AM PDT by purpleporter
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One major difference not noted in the study is past waves of legal immigrants had no access to a welfare trough. It was succeed or head back to where you came from.

A pretty good stimulus program, imo.

Invaders do not have that stick to worry about these days. All they see is the carrots.


15 posted on 08/08/2009 9:09:59 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman (Luke 23:31)
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WHere this article goes wrong is using the term “Hispanic” when it clearly means “Mexican”. THere is no such thing as “HIspanic”. The nations of Latin America are quite different ethnically, culturally and politically — the the only thing they have in common is the Spanish language and the legacy of anti-democratic Spanish colonialism.


20 posted on 08/08/2009 9:25:38 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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It’s happening not just to the Hispanics but also to many Asian groups like the Hindus and Moslems as well. These groups are defined by their religious traits; language; entertainment; rituals; customs; and habits, all of which are at odds with the very foundations of western civilization built around Judeo-Christian traditions. As a result we now have defined enclaves of these ethnic groups in varoius geographical regions and cities of the United States.


30 posted on 08/08/2009 10:18:44 AM PDT by Steelfish
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This analysis is full of holes.

To start with, the European model of integration was first, a great wave from “the old country”, to which there was no going back. Then the wave ended. The first generation were “old country”, went for minimum wage jobs, spoke the old language and maintained the old culture.

Their children, the second generation, were the most problematic. Half in and half out, and not comfortable with either group. These were the ones that formed gangs and mafias.

But the third generation were assimilated. They spoke English as a primary tongue, and were fully integrated in society, understanding how things worked and playing by the rules. But with a twist. Those who lived in cultural “ghettos”, took far longer to assimilate, because they didn’t have to.

The Mexican immigrants fit this pattern to a ‘t’, if you take into account the obvious. First of all, there wasn’t a big wave of immigration, then nothing. It was and is a steady flow for decades. This conceals integration and the different generations.

We are right next door to Mexico, so some of these immigrants could maintain ties with “the old country” for a long time, before losing touch. But now you end up with legal citizens and illegals in the same family. There are no clear generations. All ages might be legal and integrated or illegal and like they were just up from Mexico.

One thing that remains the same is that if they live in a predominantly Mexican ethnic area in the US, it is harder, and takes longer, for them to integrate. But when they are on their own, they integrate very quickly.

Prosperity is also problematic. There are Mexican-Americans whose families have lived here for generations, but are still poor; at the same time as new arrivals who have made themselves prosperous and middle class.

And the final point: now that new illegal immigration is tapering off, it will be much easier for Mexicans living in the US to become Americans. Especially if they avoid other Mexicans.


31 posted on 08/08/2009 10:24:15 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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This is a problem of Mexicans and a few other countries, not Hispanics in general. Cubans, Venezuelans, Costa Ricans, Argentinians, and Chileans, assimilate quite easily, whether they are European or mixed. Mexican culture does not value education as much as other immigrant groups, and Mexicans do not value American culture, as they are the only group from whom the US has taken territory, and old resentments simmer under the surface. They don't want to Americanize, which they then take as becoming successful. They want to do ok, but remain Mexican, not give in to the gringo.

Puerto Ricans also have assimilation problems, but for different reasons. But for the most part, being Hispanic is not the problem, being from particular countries is.

34 posted on 08/08/2009 10:38:44 AM PDT by Defiant (Reaganland vs. Obamastan: Let's go our separate ways.)
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Europe started getting this in the early 80s. Basically, they despise liberalism.

They view the liberal culture with contempt - they have absolutely no respect for it.

They see how easy it is to game the system, how pathetic the liberal mindset is.


36 posted on 08/08/2009 10:50:45 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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Good article.

1. Numbers. We have over 300 million people here already. Immigrants primarily go to areas that already have dense populations. We do not need and cannot support endless numbers of legal and illegal immigrants regardless of their educational levels or skills. Our social services net are already overloaded.

2. Standards. The relatively few immigrants we should let in should be highly educated and should have a high IQ. (Yes, give them an IQ test.) Top flight scientists and inventors readily come to mind. Endless numbers of tomato pickers whose children are disproportionately high school drop-outs we can do without.


37 posted on 08/08/2009 11:01:23 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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They can be unique in being the first immigrants to be returned to sender too.

(Except the Asians. I like the Asians.)


40 posted on 08/08/2009 1:09:17 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, Mr. Obama, please don't kill my gramma! NO on socialist healthcare!)
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BTTT!


45 posted on 08/13/2009 9:45:13 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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