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1913 - Right around the time of the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank, the Bolshevik revolution and the 16th amendment instituting the income tax.
1 posted on 08/08/2009 7:28:39 AM PDT by nitzy
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And just think they are terrified of a few brave citizens.


2 posted on 08/08/2009 7:30:10 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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I think the Communists are stoking the hate at the townhalls to get a conservative to snap to violence.

If that occurs, then the leftist regime can control public opinion over us and arrests can begin.


3 posted on 08/08/2009 7:30:26 AM PDT by AmericanGirlRising (Dear God, please heal our land. II Chronicles 7:14)
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The sound bytes from these meetings will be used against them in 2010.


4 posted on 08/08/2009 7:33:43 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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We have to deal with the government we've got, not the government we wish we had. Go to the town hall meetings and the Tea Parties and remain active and don't give up hope yet. The momentum is on our side right now and we must not lose heart.
5 posted on 08/08/2009 7:33:46 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Don't know what happened to my link...

Thirty-Thousand.org

8 posted on 08/08/2009 7:35:49 AM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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I think you are wrong.

Most congress persons are used to sleepy, sparesly attended town-hall meetings. Several tens, maybe a few hundreds of angry protesters at every meeting, probably lots of phone calls, faxes and e-mails, that is serious business.

Now, a few of them may well shrug it off and tell themselves that this is jsut “astro-turfed” protests. However, the politically savvy ones know that behind every real grass root protester there are family, friends, neighbours and colleagues. And therefore a few hundreds of real grass root protester that can mean a real threat to their future careers.

Will they dare to take that chance?


10 posted on 08/08/2009 7:38:44 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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More government is NOT the answer.


11 posted on 08/08/2009 7:40:08 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Report to the Unification Board.)
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Yep—it won’t work because “they” are by far superior at dirty fighting than the good guys are.
Remember the British too thought that the Americans fought unfairly.”They” are far more experienced/adept/forceful, etc. in these things.

In the long run, “they” will/have prevail what with more voters/activists, etc. to vote, e.g., democraps, the dead, illegals, etc. all voting at least once!

See Also;
Who the hell is this Alimski guy?

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/gunny-g-so-just-who-the-hell-is-this-guy-saul-alinski/


15 posted on 08/08/2009 7:41:07 AM PDT by gunnyg ("Just Plain Dick")
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I disagree. Already polls indicate that the discontent among the population clearly and strongly is against 0bama care. You seem to want to echo the dem line of a ‘vocal minority’ - when clearly they are in the majority.

You must also not be watching the same videos of these events that I have. I’ve seen citizens making clear statements that the congress critters just didn’t want to hear. They just wanted a room full of ‘yes’ men. Their heavy handedness will only serve to inflame the grassroots even more.


18 posted on 08/08/2009 7:44:36 AM PDT by Godzilla (TEA - Taxed Enough Already)
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The article mentions 50-100 or more people arguing against this, but sees it as insignificant. Well let’s put this into perspective...first off, these are normal, everyday citizens who would have NEVER gotten out and gone to town hall meetings before. So I look at the number and realize that’s 50 to 100X (times) more than were there before. Also, the paid acorn, seiu members and plants don’t usually have more than 20-30 people at one time.
Also, the POLLS are working in conjunction with the people revolting and that sends a message as well.

People, you must keep going to these meetings even if there are only three of you....you have to have a presence. Gosh, in Philadelphia there were about 400 people there and I would guess about 2/3 were against it. The look on Sebilius’ and Spector’s face was priceless. i THINK THEY THOUGHT Phila was a “lock”. As people see these town hall meetings on Youtube, Fox and other places it gives them hope.

Keep it going and who gives a crap about if it’s 50 or 1000....remember, only 1/3 of Americans believed the revolutionary war was worth fighting...1/3! Keep it going folks, this is the freedom of our children, friends and family we are fighting for!


25 posted on 08/08/2009 7:48:54 AM PDT by mikelets456
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SHOW UP IN WASHINGTON, DC on September 12th. They can’t ignore MILLIONS of well attired people.


29 posted on 08/08/2009 7:49:44 AM PDT by Hildy
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..each representative has 700,000 constituents..

With ACORN (COI), State (democrat) election boards, and Obamabots, that equates to 900,000 election day votes for the Democrat incumbent or challenger.

39 posted on 08/08/2009 7:59:02 AM PDT by Thommas
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1913 - Right around the time of the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank, the Bolshevik revolution and the 16th amendment instituting the income tax.

You forgot the 17th Amendment, that turned the Senate from representatives of the state to at-large representatives of the people of the state. The "progressives" from around 1908 to WW1 really broke the government as the founders intended. I've been saying that for a while.

And just last night, I was thinking about a Congress with a 10,000 member House of Representatives (which is what it would be with each representative for about 30,000 people). The problems would be to control the size of their staff and to control committees, limiting full gatherings, and using technology to handle the votes. On the plus side, it would make it very difficult for any party to personally coerce votes or control their members, easier for third parties to win elections, harder for them to ignore their constituents, and harder for them to gerrymander districts effectively. It would make elections personal and the representatives accountable to everyone in their district. This is, of course, why it will never happen.

40 posted on 08/08/2009 7:59:33 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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I tend to agree with you but these guys live by the polls and right now the polls say they are on the wrong side of the issue.


41 posted on 08/08/2009 8:02:56 AM PDT by kempster
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You couldn’t be more wrong.

1. Think of the campaign ads that can be used against them.

2. These guys sit in a Washington DC office and really don’t have an appreciation for the level of anger against this bill. They certainly don’t get the right information from the media.

3. The media is making these attendees to be nutcases (militia, skinheads, etc). Yet when you view the videos, the audience is composed largely of senior citizens and the audience is rather well behaved. This just HAS to be making people think “WTF? Thats not what Olberman said it was”


42 posted on 08/08/2009 8:03:12 AM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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Remember the marketing rule of complaints. For every 1 person who actually complains there are 10 that never do business with you gain and don’t let you know why.

For each of these protesters there are probably 100 or 1000 that are against the health care disaster but can’t get to a place to protest.


50 posted on 08/08/2009 8:06:41 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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I see a problem in where to put 6000 representatives and their staffs. Your either going to have to take over the Kennedy Center, or have these people work from home. I would prefer the latter. Imagine being able to speak to your representative, in person, without having to go to Washington.


51 posted on 08/08/2009 8:06:47 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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TOWN BRAWL MEETING BTTT!!
52 posted on 08/08/2009 8:08:24 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If the Average nObama Voter is Anything Like Peggy Joseph, The Next 4 Years Will Be A Hoot!!!!)
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These so called small groups of seniors and concerned are part of the growing Americans all over the Country that realize we are close to be a Communist nation. They will not put up with it. The thugs are in for a real surprise in 2010 when the insane politicians in Washington start getting kicked out. Yes, we are damaged almost to the breaking point now and just maybe a real revolution is close, but would hope it be peaceful. The good and real Americans have fought wars before and they will again. I've talked with a few Union members and they are not with what the Union thugs are doing. If it accelerates the Unions will bust up.
55 posted on 08/08/2009 8:09:40 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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Here’s one where the good guys \won, a long time ago now—and I’m not talkin’ bout elections—the old-fashioned way...like 1776....thereabouts...

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/the-battle-of-athens-2-august-1946/


56 posted on 08/08/2009 8:10:21 AM PDT by gunnyg ("Just Plain Dick")
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