Posted on 08/08/2009 7:28:36 AM PDT by nitzy
Something occurred to me after watching all of the footage of the various town hall meetings and the citizen's vocal reaction to what their elected representatives are doing. These 50 or 100 people are really an insignificant percentage of the congress person's constituents. Unions members, television advertising, slick marketing, ACORN and Obama-bots will more than make up for even a relatively large group of pissed off citizens. Today, each representative has 700,000 constituents. That is not the way it has always been. The framers of the constitution intended that number to be between 50,000 and 60,000. The number of congressional districts always grew with each census. I will let you guess when the congressmen decided they were tired of seeing their individual power diluted every 10 years.(see my comment for the answer) Imagine how much louder your voice would be if your representative was actually a member of your community and your voice only competed with another 50,000 voices. Now, imagine how much harder it would be for an industry or special interest to bribe several thousand congressman than it would be to bribe 435. This would require thousands more representatives but they would in fact be required to REPRESENT or they would soon go back home for good. I would gladly accept 6000 representatives in exchange for 435 tyrants.
For more information see Thirty-Thousand.org
I tend to agree with you but these guys live by the polls and right now the polls say they are on the wrong side of the issue.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
1. Think of the campaign ads that can be used against them.
2. These guys sit in a Washington DC office and really don’t have an appreciation for the level of anger against this bill. They certainly don’t get the right information from the media.
3. The media is making these attendees to be nutcases (militia, skinheads, etc). Yet when you view the videos, the audience is composed largely of senior citizens and the audience is rather well behaved. This just HAS to be making people think “WTF? Thats not what Olberman said it was”
[[The sound bytes from these meetings will be used against them in 2010. ]]
I suggested gathering all the outrageous sound bites and assinine democratic statements right now, compiling htem into an ad, and airign htem constantly right away- why wait till 2010 when everyone has ‘moved on’ like htey did after the first tea parties & everyone basically forgot what all the outrage was about? (or didn’t want to get involved because it was too much effort and too uncomfortable)
We see these things, but most people do not, which is why they call it propaganda, and why those that notice and speak up about these “over sites” will have a camp in their near-future.
Me too. Have to wonder if our knee jerk whiners are not Moveon.org seminar posters sent here to spew this self defeating propaganda. See the same handful of self defeaters show up day after day to post variations of "oh it all hopeless, we cannot win, give up".
If they are not working for Moveon then they might as well be give their habitual whine defeatism.
Naahhh. We are not a bunch of Russians Chinese or Cubans. This ain’t Venezuela. We are the guys that take these tyrants down.
“Who the hell is this Alimski guy?”
Well, gunny, he’s the guy who’s beating the hell out of the conservatives. He’s not doing it alone, but has many clones in the political left doing his bidding, from Chicago, where he got his political start.
I just bought a copy of his Rules For Radicals and am dipping into it. What he has said so far is right mirrored by the Clintons, and Obama.
This is where we have to start reading and not only reacting, but improving on his program. Unfortunately, the Pubbies haven’t the guts or grit to do much so far.
Doc Steve, USN Corpman, Korea
If your analysis were accurate, how do you explain that the good guys won in 1994, 2000 and 2002?
A) “...ignite a real revolution or
B) “he will use it as an reason to clamp down and lots of us end up in re-education camps!”
What is the difference? Either way if that begins, lots of blood will flow - and the Second Civil War will begin - actually it will be the Third, but most of you missed the Second back in the mid 70s and early 80s.
I agree with you. Did you see WND article?:
LIFE WITH BIG BROTHER
National Guard asked to explain ‘internment’ jobs
Campaign recruiting for workers at ‘civilian resettlement facility’
See:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106304
Remember the marketing rule of complaints. For every 1 person who actually complains there are 10 that never do business with you gain and don’t let you know why.
For each of these protesters there are probably 100 or 1000 that are against the health care disaster but can’t get to a place to protest.
I see a problem in where to put 6000 representatives and their staffs. Your either going to have to take over the Kennedy Center, or have these people work from home. I would prefer the latter. Imagine being able to speak to your representative, in person, without having to go to Washington.
I'll save you a bunk. Which one do you want the top, middle or bottom one?
We are playing with loaded dice. Sure, it might not always land on 7's. There is a chance something else will come up. We can scream and yell and pray and hope for a different result but the facts remain. The dice are loaded. The districts are too big to have actual representation. They represent their donors not their constituents. They are much more likely to stay in power by keeping the thugs or the parties happy than by keeping the people happy. When the congressmen do the math they figure both sides of this equation.....
Lobbyists+Party Bosses+Union Thugs+Corporate Donors+Special Interests=Constituents
Sometimes the right side of that equation outweighs the left side. Most of the time it does not.
Here’s one where the good guys \won, a long time ago now—and I’m not talkin’ bout elections—the old-fashioned way...like 1776....thereabouts...
http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/the-battle-of-athens-2-august-1946/
As long as you have a rifle, you still have a vote.
The clunkers program is failing miserably,,,80 some % of the cars sold are foreign cars. Toyota, Nissan, and Hundai. It isnt going the way they intended.
The Unions, the corporations, and all the special interests, you can vote them down by not buying their products. Starve them. Refuse to pay taxes. When a dozen or so of these “representatives” get tarred and feathered, then they will develop the fear to listen to us. Make them afraid to go home. When peaceful revolution isnt possible, then non peaceful revolution is inevitable. Turn up the Heat.
I don't know what your point is here.
You're complaining that what everyone is doing is doing nothing, yet you are not doing ANYTHING except complaining about what everyone else is doing.
see 54 cripplecreek. It is not about fear or despair it is about long term success. I would rather fix the system so we don’t have to fight these battles against the encroachment of communism every 2 or 3 years. Even if we only lose 1/2 the battles we are still fighting off of our backs.
Just to make sure we are on the same page, did you read the post or only the headline?
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