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The town hall revolts won't work
me | 08/08/09 | me

Posted on 08/08/2009 7:28:36 AM PDT by nitzy

Something occurred to me after watching all of the footage of the various town hall meetings and the citizen's vocal reaction to what their elected representatives are doing. These 50 or 100 people are really an insignificant percentage of the congress person's constituents. Unions members, television advertising, slick marketing, ACORN and Obama-bots will more than make up for even a relatively large group of pissed off citizens. Today, each representative has 700,000 constituents. That is not the way it has always been. The framers of the constitution intended that number to be between 50,000 and 60,000. The number of congressional districts always grew with each census. I will let you guess when the congressmen decided they were tired of seeing their individual power diluted every 10 years.(see my comment for the answer) Imagine how much louder your voice would be if your representative was actually a member of your community and your voice only competed with another 50,000 voices. Now, imagine how much harder it would be for an industry or special interest to bribe several thousand congressman than it would be to bribe 435. This would require thousands more representatives but they would in fact be required to REPRESENT or they would soon go back home for good. I would gladly accept 6000 representatives in exchange for 435 tyrants.

For more information see Thirty-Thousand.org


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: angrymob; congress; obamacare; power; representatives; townhall; townhalls; vanity
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To: doxteve

““Who the hell is this Alinski guy?””
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Hey Doc!

That wasn’t really a question, y’know...

Hoping to see some of these empty-headed bigmouths read the book and come to some conclusions...like the middle-class is the target; ridicule the enemy (us) and immobolize, etc.
KNOW YER ENEMY...and get smarter than them.


61 posted on 08/08/2009 8:23:30 AM PDT by gunnyg ("Just Plain Dick")
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To: fellowpatriot

I don’t think its time for revolt—not just yet. Lets keep it peaceful and let them fire the first shot. We are still a democracy and we must undo the errors we made in the last election. We were right properly snookered by a great con man and his leftist helpers in the Media. His days are numbered and his re-election doomed. The town halls, like the tea parties, may not do much but let the ruling class know we are not happy and we will not slip back into our old patterns. That day is done. The majority will not lock the chains of servitude upon our own wrists willingly. No government agency can force the American People to do anything they hate. They can try—but they will fail. Remember Bussing? Remember the burning busses of Boston?
If things go bad—succession may be in order and Civil War. We could end up broken nation, killed by our own success.


62 posted on 08/08/2009 8:27:04 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: nitzy

I read the headline and the post and to be honest the post was useless and the headline had nothing to do with the post.


63 posted on 08/08/2009 8:27:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: MNJohnnie

the dry one...


64 posted on 08/08/2009 8:29:29 AM PDT by PIF
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To: PIF

That would be the middle one, got ya. Of course if I am not there when you get there say a prayer for my soul please.


65 posted on 08/08/2009 8:34:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Obamanomics: we have to destroy the US Economy in order to save it!)
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To: gunnyg
Hoping to see some of these empty-headed bigmouth

Curious how you hope to persuade anyone to listen to you by screaming insults at them? Seems to me you are doing the Left's work for them by making sure no one listen to you at all.

66 posted on 08/08/2009 8:37:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Obamanomics: we have to destroy the US Economy in order to save it!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Done. Will pass it along to fellow bunk mates - the birth of a camp tradition.


67 posted on 08/08/2009 8:38:06 AM PDT by PIF
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To: nitzy

Sittin’ on your @$$ won’t accomplish anything but success for Zero . Guess I won’t be seein’ you at any town halls .


68 posted on 08/08/2009 8:39:14 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-: Who needs scare tactics at a HORROR SHOW ??? :-)
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To: MNJohnnie

What a pair of fat,arrogant ,commie, money stealing pigs, fighting anyone who will block their goal of oppression and control. Hitler would embrace these two and Stalin would openly weep with joy.


69 posted on 08/08/2009 8:42:11 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (" An American Idol President")
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To: PIF

“We see these things, but most people do not,”

It’s time we start plastering billboards, telephone poles with the truth. Identify these people and sue. Court records can become very useful ammunition.

He’s a better man than I. I might have broken at least one of her fingers in self defense.


70 posted on 08/08/2009 8:45:08 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We are an Oligarchy)
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To: MNJohnnie

Speak of the devil!

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“Hoping to see some of these empty-headed bigmouth
Curious how you hope to persuade anyone to listen to you by screaming insults at them? Seems to me you are doing the Left’s work for them by making sure no one listen to you at all. “
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You make my case...

Personally, I don’t give a big rat’s @$$ who, if any, responds to my response—Take It Or Leave It!

For every duty-drunk on online forums—Marines Forums included—there are many more silent majority types who reads and absorbs w/o spewing their crap out.
Those are the real Americans.


71 posted on 08/08/2009 8:46:11 AM PDT by gunnyg ("Just Plain Dick")
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To: P-Marlowe
O.K. now that we are on the same page....

Swatting at bees is like fighting individual battles against the encroachment of communism.

Pouring gas on the hive is like changing the rules of government back to the way the framers intended. We should have representatives who represent us.

Of course I wouldn't suggest to stop swatting at the bees as you look for your gas can. As long as we are going to let the bee hive exist (tyrannical non-representative government) we will continue to wear ourselves out swatting bees.

Do you now understand that I am not suggesting quitting? Do you understand I am advocating a change in the structure of our government so that it more represents the founder's intent? That is not the same as just crapping on what everyone else is doing as you suggested.

When you say the post was useless what do you mean? Was it all information you had heard before? The idea of shrinking districts is actually new to me. I think it is a good idea and should be kicked around in the political discussions on this board more than it is.

I am sorry you found the information useless.

72 posted on 08/08/2009 8:46:42 AM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: Linda Frances

Better yet
Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for ‘emergencies’

Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla., has introduced to the House of Representatives a new bill, H.R. 645, calling for the secretary of homeland security to establish no fewer than six national emergency centers for corralling civilians on military installations...

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=87757


73 posted on 08/08/2009 8:49:28 AM PDT by PIF
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To: lionheart 247365

please see 16,54,59,& 72


74 posted on 08/08/2009 8:50:30 AM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: A Strict Constructionist

That was in the next shot, but the camera guy had only time to upload the one pic before his camera was smashed... :)


75 posted on 08/08/2009 8:52:28 AM PDT by PIF
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To: P-Marlowe

el bumpo, exactly right on!


76 posted on 08/08/2009 8:53:23 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: redstateconfidential
Brilliant response! So good it deserves to be posted twice.

What a pair of fat,arrogant ,commie, money stealing pigs, fighting anyone who will block their goal of oppression and control. Hitler would embrace these two and Stalin would openly weep with joy.

Photo of Democrat party offical slapping a protestor at a Tampa FLA town hall meeting.

Democrat Party offical slaps protestor at health care town hall

77 posted on 08/08/2009 8:55:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Obamanomics: we have to destroy the US Economy in order to save it!)
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To: nitzy
Do you understand I am advocating a change in the structure of our government so that it more represents the founder's intent?

That's not going to happen in my lifetime or yours. Right now we need to stop the bleeding and to stop the destruction of our liberties and that is why we need to keep the pressure on at Town Hall meetings and Tea Parties.

You want to cure the patient's cancer while the patient is bleeding to death. Well, unless you stop the bleeding you will never have the opportunity to cure the cancer.

Your rant about the structure of government has nothing to do with the current Tea Party movement.

Move-on!

78 posted on 08/08/2009 9:00:05 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: gunnyg

good one. never heard of that battle. would make a good movie, if done right.


79 posted on 08/08/2009 9:04:24 AM PDT by cd jones (Liberals: spreading misery, calling it equality)
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To: P-Marlowe
That's not going to happen in my lifetime or yours

LOL You said I was a quitter.

I'm glad the founders didn't think like you.

80 posted on 08/08/2009 9:09:06 AM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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