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Sorry, Orly -- Judge Throws Out Fake Kenyan Birth Certificate
Salon ^ | 8/6/09

Posted on 08/06/2009 4:32:02 PM PDT by steve-b

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To: ReignOfError
If promoting a faked document doesn't undermine someone's credibility, as you suggest, then what did Rather do wrong? Wasn't he the victim?

That was merely the capstone of a long career of faking news for the MSM.

261 posted on 08/09/2009 9:41:38 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

If he’s a “Mark Levin Type,” he would not get involved...is my point. (IMHO)


262 posted on 08/09/2009 9:48:39 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: steve-b

Ohhh procedural errors!!! Well obvious that means the case has no merit.

Don’t be such a moron and stop posting garbage from Salon, idiot.


263 posted on 08/09/2009 11:44:25 AM PDT by Tempest (Honk if I'm paying for your bonus.)
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To: Beloved Levinite

Your point is understood, but my point is that we need someone with his integrity, quick wit, legal savvy, persuasive articulation, and persistence.


264 posted on 08/09/2009 12:34:57 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

...AND one who think the issue has merit! (unlike Levin)


265 posted on 08/09/2009 1:42:45 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Beloved Levinite

Well duh.


266 posted on 08/09/2009 1:45:27 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

“Well, duh” Do you respect Mark Levin? (yes?) Then what advice do you think he’d give you here? Duh??


267 posted on 08/09/2009 3:49:49 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Uncle Chip

but now it turns out that all she had was a picture, an image from the internet that can be so easily manipulated.
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Does the person she got the image from, also have the orginal - i.e. can that person be trusted? Who knows??


268 posted on 08/09/2009 5:43:55 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Beloved Levinite

Because the birther movement is a mess.
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Clearly not as much a mess as the Bammy defenders that don’t give a rip about the US Constitution. People that want to discredit the ‘birthers’ should always start there, should always start with the obfuscation and mendacity of Obama and crew. Then, if they wish to talk about the problems with the birthers, fine. But NOT until then.


269 posted on 08/09/2009 5:47:06 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: ReignOfError

If promoting a faked document doesn’t undermine someone’s credibility
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Are you saying you’re sure Taitz promoted a fake document, or could there be other explanations for the punk’d images we saw 4 days later?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2308687/posts - other BC images - we’re starting to get a little more ancillary documentary evidence, but we’ll need more than that to prove/disprove the document.

Are people convinced that the punk’d punk is real, just because he got hold of a similar plaid blanket?

In any case, I’d like to see other Certified Copies of Kenyan BCs before making a more definitive call.

I certainly don’t want to say that Taitz was ‘promoting a fake’ yet - although I’m not convinced she’s the one for this job - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2310041/posts?page=211#211


270 posted on 08/09/2009 5:55:17 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Beloved Levinite

“So many posters in this thread have asked questions along the lines of: “Why aren’t there other conservative lawyers out there who will help Orly or bring similar cases in their own states?” I think the answer is because most competent attorney’s realize that it’s not much more than a waste of time”

Yeah, that’s been Mark Levin’s stance from the beginning. And I think he just might be a pretty smart attorney.
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Aren’t there other attorneys coming onto the case tomorrow, as well as other plaintiffs?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311379/posts


271 posted on 08/09/2009 6:00:34 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Uncle Chip
**If promoting a faked document doesn't undermine someone’s credibility, as you suggest, then what did Rather do wrong? Wasn't he the victim?

—That was merely the capstone of a long career of faking news for the MSM.
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Good point. Knowing what we know now about the press, can you only imagine what Rather did was the tip of the proverbial iceberg?

272 posted on 08/09/2009 6:03:53 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: SeattleBruce

Agreed....but the Dimwits have the SRM (State Run Media) in their back pocket...and they have spun this thing to death. Even BOR’s spin zone. Now they are going after poor Lou dobbs with both barrels, trashing his family, too.


273 posted on 08/09/2009 6:30:58 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Beloved Levinite

and they have spun this thing to death. Even BOR’s spin zone. Now they are going after poor Lou dobbs with both barrels, trashing his family, too.
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I think many fair minded Americans are shocked at what’s happening to Lou Dobbs and intrigued and will ask themselves a basic question. Why won’t Obama clear this up, when it would be so easy to do so?


274 posted on 08/09/2009 6:38:17 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Beloved Levinite
Oh fer cryin' out loud!! Come ON!

Yes, I respect Mark Levin. I listen to him quite often.

Here's what I meant -- now read slowly and carefully and get it through your head: To pursue the birth certificate issue, I would prefer a lawyer who possesses many of Levin's qualities which I've already mentioned. Sharpness of mind, incisively analytical, very articulate, doesn't take any B.S. from anyone, and persistent in what he takes on.

Yes, I know that Levin himself wants nothing to do with the birth certificate issue. That's why I didn't say I wanted Levin himself, but I do want someone who has the above qualities, which Levin exhibits.

Understand??

275 posted on 08/09/2009 7:17:38 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

Yes, I understand what you are trying to convey. You believe that Levin is wrong & that this case should be pursued by someone with his intellect. I got it.


276 posted on 08/10/2009 2:22:12 AM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Non-Sequitur
Hardly. His case is with his former employer, not Obama.

The DoD can revoke your clearance because they don't like you looks.

277 posted on 08/10/2009 3:42:25 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: SeattleBruce
Are you saying you’re sure Taitz promoted a fake document, or could there be other explanations for the punk’d images we saw 4 days later?

I don't know whether the Kenyan BC is a fake or not, though I suspect it is. Uncle Chip opined that even if the BC is fake, that doesn't reflect badly on Orly, and that was what I took issue with.

278 posted on 08/10/2009 6:42:47 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError

I don’t know whether the Kenyan BC is a fake or not, though I suspect it is. Uncle Chip opined that even if the BC is fake, that doesn’t reflect badly on Orly, and that was what I took issue with.
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Right. The fact that we’ve not really been able to prove it’s a fake in over a week, should lead us to know that this is a pretty difficult task. I’m still waiting to see other Certified Copies of BCs from Kenya from that time. Many people are finding examples of BCs - but not the Certified Copies.

That said, I agree, the standard of preparedness before taking this into Court should have been much higher than our discussions here.

That also concerns me, as does this post about Taitz:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2310041/posts?page=211#211

I’ve also heard that there are other lawyers that are going to be taking this case up this week - even today:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311379/posts


279 posted on 08/10/2009 8:45:15 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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