‘Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless’ [pictures supposedly from forger of Kenya BC]

Washington Independent ^ | 8/6/09 | Dave Weigel

[lonewacko_dot_com]

It’s looking more and more like the forged “Kenyan birth certificate” released by Orly Taitz on Sunday was a prank by a supporter of President Obama. Politijab points to an anonymous blogger at FearlessBlogging, who has uploaded four photos of the original forgery and a mocking declaration:

Fine cotton business paper: $11

Inkjet printer: $35

1940 Royal Model KMM manual typewriter: $10

2 Shilling coin: $1

Pilot Varsity fountain pen: $3

Punkin’ the Birthers: Priceless

[HelenaGrace]

I don’t think the KF Lavender argument is valid. Orly Taitz herself publicly asked for data on an EF Lavender. She would have access to the original document/photo/whatever.

And she may have asked for that data before the doc was released and therefore before it could have been tainted. But I don’t know if that’s the case.

[Sophia777]

Can you be trusted?lol

[Las Vegas Ron]

But I don’t know if that’s the case.

Thanks, I know, it's hard to keep on top of it all

[Andy from Chapel Hill]

The PACER version has a fold going through the word “hospital” in the upper right part of the page that I would call an “outie”. In the crumpled picture, the same fold is an “innie”

Technical talk, you know...

[usmcobra]

Photoshop uses layers only during the image editing process.

Not exactly true, you can by mistake or design save a layered image intact for further processing of each individual layer. I do it regularly.

[Voter62vb]

Well said! I agree. Still here!

[Sophia777]

thank god I finally know ;o)

[HelenaGrace]

What if he is located outside the US?

[BP2]

The DU'ers have already said on the night this story "broke" that they'd flood the internet with forgeries to discredit Orly's. I have every reason the "punked" image is just another attempt at that.

If you look at both images of the Kenyan birth certificate (Orly's vs "punked"), there are inconsistency, particularly with the creases, smudge and staple hole.

Like I said before...

The "punked" image proves nothing more than how easily Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" may be forged as well.

Just like this one for George Washington:

[Genoa]

“wasn’t he supposed to share some blockbuster story. . .”

LOL. This was it.

[Milesc]

There is still some overlooked evidence that will be important — whether this is a forgery or not.

Late on Aug 2, when this was all new, someone started an account on Wikimedia Commons by the name of User:Sygs99. This User:Sygs99 then uploaded an image called photocopy.jpg. An IP account based in Zoetermeer, Netherlands then tried to insert this same image into the appropriate English wikipedia article, though it didn’t last long there. The image was still visible on Commons until the 4th., when it was deleted by an admin there.

As far as I can tell, nobody else but me even looked at this image. It is a completely different document to the “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” - this one is titled “Birth Certificate” - although all the info on it is the same as on the “Certified Copy...”, including the page number ref, and even Mr. Oduya’s name as registrar. At the bottom it says “Price: Ten Shillings”.

Now unfortunately I didn’t get this image on my hd (I have looked in cache and can’t get it from Firefox)... There seems to be no copy of it available anywhere on the net at the moment.

The only people who can see this other document now would be the uploader, or anyone with an admin level account on Wikimedia Commons can see it.

Is there someone who knows how to get a friendly admin on commons to take a look?

If genuine, it would be corroborating evidence. If a forgery, it would be evidence as to who’s behind this.

[papasmurf]

If you are referring to Dr. Taitz, you’re wrong. She didn’t “pass one off” to a court, she asked for authentication.

Pretty glib for a n00b, aren’t you?

[Peter Libra]

Your assessment on the "forgery" alleged on the Bomford BC. I would agree.

Knowing nothing of forensics, but having extensive experience of family history and certificates, I took the usual route.

First established fact is that David Jeffrey Bomford exists and lives in Southern Australia. He is middle-aged. Next he has Alaric Robert Hubert Bomford as a father. His mother (now deceased) was Doreen Betty Bomford (formerly Loxton. She is 31 years at his birth in 1959.

The records at her interment in 2002, state her husband is "Al" Bomford and among her children is David. These are records held at Houghton cementery, in Australia.

My reasoning (sans forensics) is this. Since we have a live David Jeffrey Bomford of Australia; at his birth, just what would the registrar have entered- other than the certificate we have seen?

[trumandogz]

No, I simply understand that facts are what they are and not always what we want them to be.

[1000 silverlings]

So, we never accepted it as proof of anything. We questioned it and everything about it in our ongoing search for the truth. we had nothing to compare it with. The fact that there was enormous interest in whether it was real or fake only emphasises that a lot of people want to know more.

The Aussie fake was discounted in a short time.

[Safrguns]

>>> I for one had a great time reading and posting to the various threads. It’s fun watching the FR Investigative Engine get revved up and really cranking.

yeah... Orly should have posted that pic here before making a fool out of herself. I still can’t believe she filed a motion like that with only a photo to go on. THAT part IS embarrassing.

Someone should tell her to try vetting stuff here next time if they havn’t already.

[unspun]

Fraud = 30 years

[Sophia777]

If you look at both images of the Kenyan birth certificate (Orly’s vs “punked”), there are inconsistency, particularly with the creases, smudge and staple hole.

I agree,

[little jeremiah]

He and his pal got zotted because they were trolls, just as you are a troll.

In fact, you may be one or both of them. People aren’t zotted here without merit.

[PA Engineer]

TROLL alert

The troll is a member of the Punk site. He made the identical post here at 19 as he did there at 3. I hit abuse, but there was no response. At the punkin site fearlessblogging:

Posted on August 06, 2009 at 08:35 AM (PDT) ( about 7 hours ago )

On this thread:

19 posted on August 6, 2009 3:08:18 PM EDT by jaxon72