Posted on 08/04/2009 6:07:57 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
MISSION VIEJO, Calif., Aug. 4 (UPI) -- A California lawyer who has filed a lawsuit alleging President Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen says she has a copy of his Kenyan birth certificate.
Orly Taitz of Mission Viejo, a leading "birther," filed a motion over the weekend for quick action on her lawsuit, The Orange County Register reported. She acknowledged the Kenyan document might be a forgery and asked U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to request verification from the Kenyan government.
"There are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document," she said in her filing. "It is also apparent ... that political pressure may be brought to bear to destroy all relevant evidence, whether such evidence exists within or outside the borders of the United States of America."
Proof that Obama was born in Hawaii includes his birth certificate there, statements of Hawaiian officials and a birth notice in a Honolulu newspaper.
Taitz's document, described as a certified copy, says Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in a hospital in Mombasa. The document is dated Feb. 17, 1964, and stamped Republic of Kenya.
Media Matters for America, a Democratic-leaning watchdog group, says Kenya did not become a Republic until later in 1964.
I think she’ll reveal it. Just think how many more people will believe HER rather than some obscure judge somewhere. SHE also has standing - I lay odds she was in on this from the get go - just “waiting” to see if Zero’s popularity and policy ratings started to nosedive. And on top of it all - her hands are clean - she’s only reporting the facts! It’s the “perfect” storm.
??? Obama has not produced his birth certificate. The certification of live birth is a different document which contains much less information and is not signed by a doctor. If we had the actual birth certificate, which supposedly has been scanned into the Hawaiian archives, we would know for instance which hospital Obama was born at and which doctor delivered him. We don't currently know that from any official documentation. There are conflicting reports which hospital the Obamessiah entered this world.
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release August 5, 2009
PRESS GAGGLE
BY PRESS SECRETARY ROBERT GIBBS
Aboard Air Force One En route South Bend, Indiana
Q Switching topics slightly and then we might go back to North Korea. Do you have any reaction to the swearing-in of President Ahmadinejad in Iran today?
MR. GIBBS: Well, let me correct a little bit of what I said yesterday. I denoted that Mr. Ahmadinejad was the elected leader of Iran. I would say it's not for me to pass judgment on. He's been inaugurated, that's a fact. Whether any election was fair, obviously the Iranian people still have questions about that and we'll let them decide that. But I would simply say he's been inaugurated and we know that is simply a fact.
Q Do you recognize him as the leader, elected fairly or not?
MR. GIBBS: It's not for -- it's not for me or for us to denote his legitimacy, except to acknowledge the fact.
Q Does the White House believe the election was fair?
MR. GIBBS: That's not for us to pass judgment on. I think that's for the Iranian people to decide, and obviously there are many that still have a lot of questions.
If he was born in Hawaii his Kenyan status doesn't matter.
Yes, he has. That is an official birth certificate. The hospital and doctor have no relevance to proving eligibility.
Yes, it does. Citizenship is hereditary, you obtain it by the virtue of your parent's citizenship.
Secretary of State Bayard ruled under Section 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes in 1885 that although Richard Greisser was born in the United States, his father at the time of his birth was a subject of Germany, and thus, Richard Greisser could not be a citizen of the United States. Furthermore, it was held his father was not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States under the Fourteenth Amendment.
A Digest of the International Law of the United States
For the sake of argument, lets say Zero WAS born in the US. Like Greisser, he has a father that was never a citizen subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Obama Sr. was a temporary visitor on a student visa, which had no effect on his status as a foreign citizen.
Four months after he was born, Zero became a Kenyan citizen under the same statutes his father did.
At best, Zero carries DUAL citizenship, and is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States.
Mombasa was part of Zanzibar in 1961.
Bump for an important post.
Yes it does. It is verification that this wasn't some foreign birth reported by his grandparents and accepted by the state of Hawaii. Hawaii is a very lax state about those kind of things.
"The hospital and doctor have no relevance to proving eligibility."
"Yes it does. It is verification that this wasn't some foreign birth reported by his grandparents and accepted by the state of Hawaii. Hawaii is a very lax state about those kind of things."
No, the only thing that matters is if he was born in Hawaii, and the birth certificate states that. Being born in Hawaii pretty much means it's not some foreign birth. The doctor and hospital do not matter.
As for Hawaii being lax, that's what birthers want to believe, but that doesn't make it so. There is no reason to believe that the state issues birth certificates that lie about place of birth.
The law is, if you are born in the US, no matter what your parents are, you are a citizen.
So, you’re saying if Maddy Payne mailed in a false affidavit to the Health Department, what, they would have thrown it away?
Be specific in your answer.
Would the Hawaii Health Department have created a birth record, or not?
So you say.
SHOW me.
Then why did the birth announcements in the paper contain an address they never lived at? There is something fishy. There is something out of place. There is a reason why Obama does not want the real birth certificate released. If you want to accept the word of government when there is an actual document which proves it, that is your choice. There is no legitimate reason the actual birth certificate is not released. Just release the damn document and quite the f-ing stonewalling. That is what Obama promised, while you provide cover for the lying POS.
Now we know why Hussein Obama picked Biden and not Hillary. Hillary would be POTUS by now....Biden is too stupid to usurp the usurper.
Are you referring to Hillary’s trip to Kenya? I’m sure Obama pulled some sort of stunt to keep her at bay. Maybe she’ll wise up and look for Obama’s birth certificate there?
You wrote-
“Now we know why Hussein Obama picked Biden and not Hillary. Hillary would be POTUS by now....Biden is too stupid to usurp the usurper.”
She isn’t either kind of witch. She’s a Gadfly. Like Larry Klayman.
I agree! Sometimes in the media, even bad exposure is actually good. The American people will wake up more and more and demand that the Government enforce the Constitution and require Obama to release his original birth certificate.
You wrote-
“This birth certificate made it into Conan O’Brians monologue last night. Of course the slant was that it was fake and they showed a comedically altered copy of it.
But still...it’s burst into the mainstream. There’s no stopping it.”
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