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Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.
The New York Times ^ | August 4, 2009 | Mark Mazzetti & Thom Shanker

Posted on 08/04/2009 3:04:17 PM PDT by Saint Reagan

WASHINGTON — A pair of nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines has been patrolling off the eastern seaboard of the United States over recent days, a rare mission that has raised concerns inside the Pentagon and intelligence agencies about a more assertive stance by the Russian military.

The episode has echoes of the cold war era, when the United States and the Soviet Union regularly parked submarines off each other’s coasts to steal military secrets, track the movements of their underwater fleets — and be poised for war.

But the collapse of the Soviet Union all but eliminated the ability of the Russian Navy to operate far from home ports, making the current submarine patrols thousands of miles from Russia even more surprising for military officials and defense policy experts.

“I don’t think they’ve put two first-line nuclear subs off the U.S. coast in about 15 years,” said Norman Polmar, a naval historian and expert on submarine warfare.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: appeasement; bhorussia; bhoussr; coldwar2; communism; kgb; navair; navy; putin; redarmy; resetbutton; russia; russianmilitary; russiannavy; russkiesop; sovietnavy; sovietunion; ussr; ussr2
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To: Saint Reagan

And this is news how?


21 posted on 08/04/2009 3:37:30 PM PDT by lakeman
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To: Saint Reagan
Let's not forget those bastards at Toshiba who sold them the technology to duplicate our silent propulsion and the ability to track OUR subs with.

It may have been in the 80's, but there will never be ANY Toshiba products in this house!

How many folks today even remember this? I'll bet there are a good many Freepers using Toshiba laptops.

22 posted on 08/04/2009 3:43:51 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

This particular Freeper will Never buy Toshiba, for just that reason.


23 posted on 08/04/2009 3:55:20 PM PDT by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: NativeNewYorker
What Would Sarah Do?

In any situation, or crisis, I am confident that a President Palin would always err on the side of protecting her country, even if it risked being 'chastised' by leaders of other nations or their citizens.

24 posted on 08/04/2009 4:03:37 PM PDT by jla
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To: Slump Tester

Forney, Wampum, Pa.


25 posted on 08/04/2009 4:17:29 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Wanted, newer tag line in good condition.)
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To: Saint Reagan

Nothing to see here, it’s just Obama’s ride to Martha’s Vineyard.


26 posted on 08/04/2009 4:33:16 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tonytitan

I could see the stupid side now that you mention it. However since they are just learning, anything they do is OK as per 0’s rules of engagement.


27 posted on 08/04/2009 4:39:10 PM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: Saint Reagan

Cold War II


28 posted on 08/04/2009 5:16:54 PM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: Indy Pendance

Either that or the Russians want to trade in their Clunkers.


29 posted on 08/04/2009 5:23:54 PM PDT by Palladin (Me to Gubmint Healthcare Counselor: "Get your ass out of here or YOU will be in intensive care!")
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To: Palladin

Clunker subs? LOL!


30 posted on 08/04/2009 5:29:22 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ScubieNuc

I myself am not terribly worried about it, since those are probably the only two sea-worthy submarines in the entire Russian fleet.


31 posted on 08/04/2009 5:32:03 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (The GOP: The Big Tent with a Fifth Column.)
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To: Slump Tester; Saint Reagan; RoadGumby

The Swedes were complicit in that betrayal as well - a Swedish company called Kongsberg.


32 posted on 08/04/2009 5:32:23 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: RC2

Or they have come to rescue us from our oppressive government.


33 posted on 08/04/2009 5:33:20 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: Saint Reagan

They just want to enjoy the FL coast now that the snowbirds are up north.


34 posted on 08/04/2009 5:37:32 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: NativeNewYorker

She’d do absolutely nothing. She would (hopefully) let the Navy handle it.


35 posted on 08/04/2009 5:37:46 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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It only takes 5-15 minutes from a Russian sub missile launch either from the West or East Coasts to hit any city.Very little time to take cover.It takes the same amount of time for our missiles from a Trident submarine to hit their Russian targets.


36 posted on 08/04/2009 5:38:40 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: Saint Reagan
They provide security for Obama on his sabbaticals to Moscow, courtesy of Putin and Soros.

37 posted on 08/04/2009 5:40:39 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Saint Reagan

Hey Obeyme- your ride is here


38 posted on 08/04/2009 5:42:15 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: Saint Reagan
The NYT's sonar has detected it.

Good job NYT! /s

39 posted on 08/04/2009 5:42:32 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Saint Reagan

The big question here is why would the New York Times have/been given this knowledge? The follow-up question is why are they being reported?


40 posted on 08/04/2009 5:43:18 PM PDT by Swan
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