Posted on 08/03/2009 6:27:13 PM PDT by kristinn
Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday. “His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.”
Nonetheless, Chessoni spent part of his day fielding inquiries about an image posted at the fringe conservative web site WorldNetDaily–a purported “certified copy of registration of birth” belonging to “Barack Hussein Obama II,” submitted by attorney Orly Taitz in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, part of her undying quest to get a judge to listen to the conspiracy theories about the 44th president of the United States. “I’m forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond,” Taitz told the Website. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy.”
Chessoni didn’t understand what Taitz was talking about or what her discovery (the gift of an “anonymous source” who’s “afraid for his life”) was supposed to prove. He showed the image to other embassy employees, who rolled their eyes at what was, for some, only the latest forgery being passed off as an official document from Kenya. “It’s a red herring,” said Chessoni. “Maybe there are not enough facts out there.”
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On Sunday and Monday, the forums at the conservative web site FreeRepublic.com roiled with discussion of Taitz’s new allegations and the forged document. Some prominent “birthers” chimed in to attack Taitz. “Dr. Ron Polarik,” an anonymous “forensic analyst” whose attempts to prove that Obama’s Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery has been widely accepted by “birthers”–and even filed as evidence in one of Berg’s lawsuits–accused Taitz of shopping around “another BOGUS BIRTH DOCUMENT.” Jim Robinson, the founder and owner of the site, started his own thread, asking whether the certificate was a fake. On Monday, the site took the unorthodox step of linking directly to the two threads with a sort of disclaimer: “Welcome Visitors! If you’re looking for the Kenyan Birth Certificate story, click here! Or is it a fake?”
“The story broke at a perfect time [early Sunday morning] for people to sit at their computers all day,” laughed Kristinn Taylor, a spokesman for FreeRepublic. Taylor pointed to the combative threads about the “birth certificate” to show that the the conservative site’s readers were treating the story much the way they had treated the September 2004 CBS News story on President George W. Bush’s service in the Texas Air National Guard. A FreeRepublic poster named Harry McDougland (sic), who went by the handle “Buckhead,” did key research on the documents used in the original CBS News report that led producers to admit that they were probably forged, and eventually led to the network retracting the story.
“A lot of people are looking at this with a jaundiced eye, especially in light of what happened five years ago,” said Taylor. “One thing I really hate is people using forged documents to score political points. I didn’t like it in 2004. I didn’t like it when people went after Michelle Obama with that forged room service receipt, saying she had racked up this big bill at the Waldorf-Astoria. I don’t like it when it’s done to anybody.”
Taitz’s find has proven just as controversial with lawyers who’ve worked with her in the past. Gary Kreep, a California attorney who assisted Taitz when she filed her first lawsuits in the state last year, worried that Taitz had jumped the gun. “I’ve advised her in writing, along with several other attorneys, that if she has an original document that seems to bolster her case, it needs to be examined by a professional document examiner,” Kreep told TWI.
Kreep’s concern about Taitz’s “Kenyan birth certificate” came out of his own experience in being offered fishy or fraudulent “smoking gun” documents about Obama’s past. “I’ve gotten tips about birth certificates that are purported to be original, snuck out of Kenya, yadda yadda,” Kreep said. “Then, all of a sudden, the people offering these things disappear into the woodwork. Some people are definitely putting together hoaxes to damage our cause.”
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Yup, hackers are changing things around. The original number is 47644, not 47044. That was clever though.
“So it is a fake?”
More possible for it to be fake than for it to be real. However, I don’t care. I want the Hawaiian BC records opened for full examination. If this Kenyan BC holds up long enough to bring that about, I will be glad. I would prefer that President Obama to release the BC and other documents without being compeled. Thus, the foreign born issue would be put to rest by most of us. However, since his father was Kenyan by his own admission, then I don’t see how it could end the “natural born” dispute because, as I believe the original intent of the constitution means, to be natural born you need both parents to be U.S. citizens.
However, that would definitely take a SCOTUS decision to settle. I don’t think they want to touch that issue....although I believe they are shirking their sworn duty not to.
From the UrbanLedgends site: For what it’s worth - http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/appt/2009appt/august/126832.htm would show that SOS Clintion is headed for Nairobi Kenya tonight.
sorry I admit I have not plowed through all 10,000 replies on various threads. Has this definitely been proven a forgery as the story implies, or is the jury still out?
I’ve been telling people that all weekend on here. People going totally mental trying to prove yet “another real document”I’d like to see all the big mouths on here who broke my balls apologize to me when they once again see they have been useful tools of the left.They keep posting the bait and people keep falling for it , giving the left a good laugh and the watching public second thoughts about our side.
“Ridicule is mans most potent weapon” SAUL ALINSKY
THAT’S why Obama is just sitting and watching it all play out.
Did it ever occurr to you that he was lying?
Did babies come out of fathers rather than monthes in 1961?
Easy with the fury, FRiend. Yes, we all see it; it's been pointed out repeatedly for days and weeks by guys on our side.
Medved, Coulter et al. think it's a political diversion.
Other people on FR think it's a setup to punk the white conservatives and destroy our cred.
Use Occam's Razor: What is more likely, that another Chicago punk pol has got his fist caught in the jar, or that he's only pretending to have his fist caught in the jar, in order to fool us all?
Remember, politics isn't rocket science. Even the Clintons who were supposed to be "all that" (and whose guy Phil Berg is, who started this BC flap 15 months ago) got caught repeatedly: their genius was in making key people back off, blink, or disappear.
Is she on her way over there tonight?
Here's the journal entry for Monday afternoon:
PM depart Andrews Air Force Base en route to Nairobi, Kenya
Well, I'll be damned. Orly Taitz and her little squib just sent the Secretary of State haring off to Nairobi. I suppose Hillary took along her best leg-breaking toolset ......
All the Lefty bloggers already know it’s a forgery.
And it was a remarkably civil discussion with a minimum of personal attacks and flaming, and almost no zotted posts.
I never suggested letting “Obama off the hook” and it does not take a “marvelous gift of knowing the future actions of others” to know that getting the long form BC would not put an end to this.
You may regard those other issues as red herrings, many others do not, hence my comment that revealing the long form BC would not put an end to anything.
That’s interesting- if true we should see a story in politico soon..
I searched for an “”MM Shaw Primary School” in Kenya. Oddly enough- there is an “MM Shah Primary School” in Kisumu, Kenya- but not one with the Shaw spelling, which seems odd on the part of the writer of the post.
I found it here- in Wiki roughly 1/4 down the page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_schools_in_Kenya
DFU has been around since 96-98? I think. I still think about his Yellow Rose of Texas tribute for us Lone Star Staters.
Based on what I have seen here on FR -- and in pending court cases -- I do fear that you are correct.
The only acceptable "end" is putting the fraud out of office...
I know about DFU, of course. I was chiming in on a post that was conflating him (jokingly) with Buckhead.
Our men dying on the battle field need to know that the country itself has abandoned the very thing they are fighting for.... the constitution.
At this point I would call “WAR OVER” boys come on home.
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