Posted on 08/03/2009 6:27:13 PM PDT by kristinn
Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday. “His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.”
Nonetheless, Chessoni spent part of his day fielding inquiries about an image posted at the fringe conservative web site WorldNetDaily–a purported “certified copy of registration of birth” belonging to “Barack Hussein Obama II,” submitted by attorney Orly Taitz in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, part of her undying quest to get a judge to listen to the conspiracy theories about the 44th president of the United States. “I’m forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond,” Taitz told the Website. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy.”
Chessoni didn’t understand what Taitz was talking about or what her discovery (the gift of an “anonymous source” who’s “afraid for his life”) was supposed to prove. He showed the image to other embassy employees, who rolled their eyes at what was, for some, only the latest forgery being passed off as an official document from Kenya. “It’s a red herring,” said Chessoni. “Maybe there are not enough facts out there.”
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On Sunday and Monday, the forums at the conservative web site FreeRepublic.com roiled with discussion of Taitz’s new allegations and the forged document. Some prominent “birthers” chimed in to attack Taitz. “Dr. Ron Polarik,” an anonymous “forensic analyst” whose attempts to prove that Obama’s Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery has been widely accepted by “birthers”–and even filed as evidence in one of Berg’s lawsuits–accused Taitz of shopping around “another BOGUS BIRTH DOCUMENT.” Jim Robinson, the founder and owner of the site, started his own thread, asking whether the certificate was a fake. On Monday, the site took the unorthodox step of linking directly to the two threads with a sort of disclaimer: “Welcome Visitors! If you’re looking for the Kenyan Birth Certificate story, click here! Or is it a fake?”
“The story broke at a perfect time [early Sunday morning] for people to sit at their computers all day,” laughed Kristinn Taylor, a spokesman for FreeRepublic. Taylor pointed to the combative threads about the “birth certificate” to show that the the conservative site’s readers were treating the story much the way they had treated the September 2004 CBS News story on President George W. Bush’s service in the Texas Air National Guard. A FreeRepublic poster named Harry McDougland (sic), who went by the handle “Buckhead,” did key research on the documents used in the original CBS News report that led producers to admit that they were probably forged, and eventually led to the network retracting the story.
“A lot of people are looking at this with a jaundiced eye, especially in light of what happened five years ago,” said Taylor. “One thing I really hate is people using forged documents to score political points. I didn’t like it in 2004. I didn’t like it when people went after Michelle Obama with that forged room service receipt, saying she had racked up this big bill at the Waldorf-Astoria. I don’t like it when it’s done to anybody.”
Taitz’s find has proven just as controversial with lawyers who’ve worked with her in the past. Gary Kreep, a California attorney who assisted Taitz when she filed her first lawsuits in the state last year, worried that Taitz had jumped the gun. “I’ve advised her in writing, along with several other attorneys, that if she has an original document that seems to bolster her case, it needs to be examined by a professional document examiner,” Kreep told TWI.
Kreep’s concern about Taitz’s “Kenyan birth certificate” came out of his own experience in being offered fishy or fraudulent “smoking gun” documents about Obama’s past. “I’ve gotten tips about birth certificates that are purported to be original, snuck out of Kenya, yadda yadda,” Kreep said. “Then, all of a sudden, the people offering these things disappear into the woodwork. Some people are definitely putting together hoaxes to damage our cause.”
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Our men dying on the battle field need to know that the country itself has abandoned the very thing they are fighting for.... the constitution.
At this point I would call “WAR OVER” boys come on home.
LOL. You forgot to say “in our pajamas”.
Another fantastic job of representing this site Kristinn. You da man!
pissant, all
take a look at posts 4 & 5 of this thread. Shows the Aussie BC to be fake
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2307802/posts?page=4
I always get the two of them confused with “Buck from Uphead”
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
You ain’t normal.
Ah so desu ka!
Hai!
I will fall back to the argument that the BC issue is a red herring and will make it harder to get any additional information about or attention towards the rest of Obama’s life.
Completely understand, been there once or twice myself.
I believe we should be demanding the release of ALL the records on this puke in office, not just the BC but I also think the BC is the forefront to get them all.
We have a right to know and he has a moral obligation to be an open book on this.
I forgot all about that Yellow Rose song.
My date got changed when they changed servers. I was here in about April 1997.
Let me just say that I want to see the long-form BC and all other documents that Obama doesn’t want me to see—BECAUSE Obama doesn’t want me to see them.
AFTER—AFTER—AFTER we see them is the time to decide whether or not it was worthwhile clamoring to see them.
I have never seen so many people promoting complacency, uncuriosity, and apathy as republican (small-R) virtues. I don’t seem to recall the press and liberals hooting and hollering that nobody should be interested in the Nixon tapes, or that holding hearings on Iran-Contra was unacceptably “upsetting.”
Then, plain talk, you’re blind.
I’ll mention the problems that you didn’t mention.
1: Mombassa was not part of Kenya at the time, it was part of Zanzibar.
2: There was no “Republic of Kenya” in the year that President Obama was born. Kenya was still part of the British Empire at the time so it’s official name was “Dominion of Kenya.” The Republic of Kenya did not come into existance until several years later.
3: The President’s father was born in 1936 so therefor he was 25, not 26.
4: The President’s father was born in Nyanza Province along Lake Victoria. That is where that part of the President’s family continues to live. Mombassa is a city on the Indian Ocean...1000 miles to the east. Mombassa is not even in that province. It didn’t even have an international airport until 1979.
5: And even if the birther conspiracy was true there is still the matter of US law regarding citizenship. Barack Obama was born to a US citizen. He could have been born on the planet Jupiter and he would still be a Natural Born US Citizen. Because anyone born to a US citizen is also a US citizen. That is how John McCain was eligible to be US President because he was born in Panama. And not on a US military base there.
It’s time that the birther nonsense die. It only exists because a bunch of people are ticked off a liberal Democrat and a black one at that won.
Welcome to Free Republic whoever you are.
If you read my posts you will see I am only interested in truth and facts - Obama has provided neither and spent a great deal hiding his background.
This is not about Obama. We need to ensure a President meets the criteria specified in the Constitution. We cannot allow someone with a questionable past (like Obama or anyone) to become President just becauise they stole enough votes to get in. An investigation is needed to sort all of this out.
An ordinary citizen is NOT necessarily a “natural born citizen”. Even if Obama was born in Hawaii he may not be an natural born citizen. The Supreme Court needs to decide this so we have proper precedence established prior to the next slimeball foreign Democrat stealing enough votes to get in. Oh and none of your nitpicky points were compelling and there could be reasonable explanations for them. Unlike Obama's so-called forged BC this one has names on it which can be checked out. I don't know if its real or not but it is more compelling that what Obama is putting out and should be seriously examined with a full investigation by an impartial body.
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