[don-o]

The document from Australia was introduced in the thread in my header.

[Brytani]

At least it was found by our side and not the O-bots.

[chs68]

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[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

The creases do not line up between the two? How do you rectify that, if they are the same?

Not making an opinion about either one, just pointing that error out about the comparison of the two.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

FUD

[Ironfocus]

Good find, But why did WND say that they had compared the Kenyan one to others from that time and they looked similar? Were they just blowin’ smoke hoping to cause a fire?

[Art in Idaho]

Dr. Orly Taitz, "I need volunteers to check things out in England ASAP." From the Oil for Immigration site

[tophat9000]

Yea they have two names in common

Signature of Registrar "Lavender" and

District Registrar "Miller"

It a fake using one as a template for the other...

Very stupid (too stupid?) not to change the two Registrar name...

Either someone was just lazy in their fake or...

The Kenya BC was faked by someone tying to discredit the people questioning the Obama BC question or...

The Australia BC was faked by someone trying to discredit the Kenya BC

How long has the Australia BC been on the web?

[Brytani]

The Awakening just discussed FR and yes we’re giving Hanen, the SteadyDrip and you guys credit.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

A couple of things glare out on this.

The G.F. Lavender and J.H. Miller type doesn't match the rest of the type on the doc. and the 4, 5, and 3's in the book/page section at the bottom is different from those at the top.

Also a photo file can be altered and reloaded over an earlier version without it showing in the last updated data.

[Dajjal]

obumpa

[radical_troll]

The certificate fee 7s 6d is correct for Australia and WRONG for Kenya. Kenya used the shilling divided into 100 cents. (You can find Kenyan stamps from 1963/64 with Google, denominated 50c, etc.)

Sorry guys, no silver bullet.

[Tawiskaro]

I think the Australian BC looks legit. If it is not, someone took great pains to make it look so. The printer is easily found with a bit of Googling; the printer is missing from the purported Obama certificate. There's also the business of Dominion vs. Republic, but I wouldn't know how to prove or disprove one way or another without a lot of time at the library.

I do know a bit about image manipulation. I am not an expert, by any means, and I have never tried falsifying a document, but I figure I could reproduce the purported BC. It would take time, though. In a few minutes I was able to produce a couple of minor changes that suggest I could modify the Australian BC:



Notice that I changed the book and page number, and began tinkering with constructing the "Coast Province of Kenya" phrase. That stopped me because I found that there was no upper case "K" in the document to copy and massage into place. Any attempt to create that "K" would be tedious and, unless expertly done, would stick out like Obama's ears.

It would be much easier to find a similar font and write the text as desired, then drop it in a layer over the template. Simply by resizing and playing with the DPI settings, it would be easy to reproduce the JPEG compression artifacts seen around the other text.

To create the bogus BC I'd make a template of the underlying government form with a similar font using Microsoft Word or a desktop publishing software application. I'd convert that to an image and drop in the text copied and assembled from the Australian BC. Finally, I'd print it, fold it, put it in my back pocket for a while, then unfold it and repeat as necessary. When I was satisfied with the result, I'd photograph it, not scan it. I'd make sure I shot it with a bit of perspective to mask any imperfections. There’s a reason we don’t see a simple scan like the Australian BC.

Why bother assembling the typewritten text like a ransom note from an old movie rather than just using a font substitution? I would do it because a substitute font might be easily recognized. One reason I think someone did assemble the text from the available typewritten characters is because the uppercase components of the deputy registrar's names are so similar: "YOUNG" and "ODUYA". The "D" is easily copied from "Douglas" and the "A" bears a distinct slant to the left that jars with the "ODUY". I don't see a similar "A" elsewhere in the Australian document, so it may just be sloppiness in skewing the character.

I cannot explain why someone who would use an Australian BC as a template would leave any significant elements unchanged. Perhaps the culprit used OCR (optical character recognition) to collect the text, then forgot to change it. I’ve done that sort of thing.

That’s as far as my eyes and thinking take me for now. Fwiw.

[FTJM]

This is posted on the gen site now:

"“10d I0543 David Jeffrey Bomford, b 10 April 1959 at Adelaide, m 28 Nov 1981 at Somerton Park, South Australia I0546 Amanda Jane Sandover, b 1959, and had issue [an image of David’s birth certificate has been removed from the website temporarily as at 4 August 2009 as the site has a limited download capacity. See http://washingtonindependent.com/53658/is-this-the-source-of-the-forged-kenyan-birth-certificate]";"

[Bikkuri]

To: don-o Of course it’s a forgery. Only a moron would latch on to this crap. 29 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:39:30 AM by FreepShop1

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To: FreepShop1 ....of course its a forgery... Finally, a voice of reason instead of people tying themselves in knots trying to prove this crapola is real. Thanks to FreepShop1 40 posted on Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:57:56 AM by mono

Hmm... 2 posters, 11 posts apart, one backing the other and they are both 2008-10-28

Something doesn't seem right...

[GLDNGUN]

We’ve been looking at the lettering and folds. Some people had a problem with the lettering and folds, but I didn’t see a problem, although I was focusing on the “typed” text.

Something kept drawing my eyes toward the paragraph at the bottom of both documents. The part that states, “I, XXX, Deputy Registrar of Births, Deaths”, etc. They do NOT match between the Kenyan and Aussie docs. The wording is the same except for the location but the justification does not match. I’m not sure if that matters, but that’s what I kept looking at for some reason.

Then I remembered that making a negative of an image can sometimes reveal a lot more detail. Think “Shroud of Turin”. So, I downloaded the Aussie BC to my desktop, opened the image in Paint (of all things), reversed the image, and looked at that bottom paragraph.

There it became glaringly obvious to me that the text is simply superimposed over an image of a folded piece of paper.

I highly recommend you try the same. Look at the entire image “reversed”, especially the bottom paragraph and how the entire text just goes right across the creases without any alteration. It’s almost comical.

Perhaps someone can post a “negative” of the Aussie BC for all to see what I’m talking about.

[spacejunkie01]

The guy who “discovered” the Australian BC is from a liberal site. Isn’t it ironic that he just randomly searched the internet after seeing the Kenyan BC and stumbled across the Jeffery one??

I call complete BS. My theory is that he forged the Australian one to look like the Kenyan one to dilute the evidence.