Heads Up - Multiple COLBS Warning [someone swapped out the Kenya BC AFTER it was posted]

Various ^ | August 3, 2009 | Various

[editor-surveyor]

"How about also who faked the Kenya document form the Bomford template?"

You've got it backwards. The Bomford doc was made from the "Kenya" doc. no question at all on that.

[386wt]

...Bomford could actually be Barack Hussein Obama!

LOL! Good one.

[dalight]

It took me forever to read this thread. I agree that Bomford and Kenyan BC cannot co-exist. However, as we review the bidding. Orly has a physical copy of the Kenyan BC, any document examiner worth anything could and should be able to see if this was offset, letterpress, ink jet or laser. That is what is so powerful about having the document rather than just seeing an image. It is very likely that this document, the Kenya BC, was letter press, hard to imagine it even offset in Kenya in 1964. This should show like a sore thumb under magnification. And, photoshop is not so good getting lead type into place, at least I don't have a lead type plugin for mine.

Bomford has the printers mark at the bottom.. but Bomford only exists for us as an electronic document, forever beyond the reach of a loop. It is the more likely fake, and they should have to cough the original up, more so, lots of Aussie BC's are being posted here and none is similar to Bomford.

The answer is in finding a Kenyan comparable, WND claims one and the should produce it immediately.

[RummyChick]

From the UK border agency

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/nationalityinstructions/nisec2gensec/legitimacy?view=Binary

It was a British colony at the time of his birth, correct?

[cycle of discernment]

you sure she has a ‘physical copy’?

I thought it was just the image

[editor-surveyor]

"Bomford tells us they’re BOTH fakes."

No, the Bomford doc was made from the Kenya doc. Or parts of it.

[unspun]

“The Bomford birth certification is archived in Way Back as being from June 7, 2007 or before, Hanen found.”

LIE!!!!! The first thing I did was go to Way Back - the site is archived, BUT THE IMAGES ARE NOT ARCHIVED!

Thanks. I asked Hanen. Here is her response:

"i didnt look for the document i looked for the last time the site was updated"

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bomford.net

[RatsDawg]

“WND claims one and the should produce it immediately”

BINGO!

[cycle of discernment]

sorry I see the wnd story does say she has a ‘copy’

[Shelayne]

If the Bomford doc is authentic, then I think the one who “discovered” this document in an image search (Uh-huh) would be the most likely culprit.

In 10-year-old boyspeak: The one who smell’t it, dealt it.

(IMO, of course.)

[386wt]

If Koyaan says the Bomford doc is real, then I’d say it’s a fake.

Not only that but he "discovered it"!

[unspun]

If the Bomford doc is authentic, then I think the one who “discovered” this document in an image search (Uh-huh) would be the most likely culprit. In 10-year-old boyspeak: The one who smell’t it, dealt it. (IMO, of course.)

If you knew Hanen like many involved with Sentinel Radio and Investigating Obama know Hanen, you wouldn't say anything of the sort. But, I'll try to keep you forgiven for your pretty legitimate concerns.

Send me a sitemail, if you need to carry the conversation further.

[hoosiermama]

The Initial of the Lavender CLerk changed? Was the K in question added as a signature from the person who changed it?

[Jedidah]

Here:

http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Bomford/791252698#

Check the political affiliations and birthplace.

From about 2/3 of the way down on the Bomford genealogy site http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/treeannotated.htm:

11a I0580 Michael Kondwani Bomford, b 1971 in Zambia, m 2003 Kiersten Eileen Moore, b 1976, and had issue (David Bomford emails 4 Sep 2006)

12a I1425 Liam Evan Bomford-Moore, b 2006 in Kentucky

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

My Spysweeper went off on your link :

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Mite want to sweep your system...

[mojitojoe]

Oh boy..............no comment

[Albertafriend]

I just zoomed it in to 400 and you are absolutely correct. The folds are a background image to the text. There is nothing to indicate that the fold goes through the lettering.

[dalight]

I thought it was just the image

I am certain of it, but lord knows which post this was in. I will have to run back and find it if I want to provide the link and I have work to do yet tonight. So, arrf.

But, Orly couldn't submit the document as evidence if it wasn't physically in her possession. An image of a document is useless in any court in the US.

The text I read also stated it had been examined by a document examiner. This person wouldn't be able to attest to the data printed on the document but they would be able to rule out modern printing, and have an opinion of the age of the paper and whether it had been artificially aged.

I am sure anyone would do this first, would Orly? I would guess yes. But, still, you have to check the rest and she is. What can you say.

[DJ MacWoW]

I don’t know as they’ll be back. They aren’t zotted but are very aware of suspicions.

[Balata]

Good post. Looks very convincing.