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To: Mount Athos

Related to the ‘Republic of Kenya’ portion of the Taitz picture:
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Mount Athos: I want to congratulate you on being the 384th freeper to misrepresent the modern, amended constitution as the original 1963 constitution.

The original 1963 constitution doesn’t have the word Republic in it.
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From this blog - post #23 (warning - this is an anti-birther blog):
http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/08/02/the-latest-birther-fantasy-obamas-fake-kenyan-birth-certificate/

There was a one year transition period.
Kenya Independence was declared on 12/12/63.
The Republic was official on 12/12/64.
Someone on the TopSecret blog gave proof that there are gov’t documents with both the crest AND ‘Republic of Kenya’ on the documents during this transition period. It makes sense that they’d have both.

Ref: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread487621/pg28
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We can see from the Taitz picture, that there was the Coastal Provincial crest and the reference to ‘Republic of Kenya.’

Now Mount, you’ve said the ‘original 1963 [Kenyan] constitution doesn’t have the word Republic in it.’

What are the relative dates of these two Kenyan Constitutional documents? They both are dated in 1963:
http://www.constitutionnet.org/files/Kenyan%20constitution%20amended%202008.pdf

http://www.constitutionnet.org/files/KEL63-002.pdf

The first document, which persisted forward and formed the basis of what is currently the Kenyan Consitution, has clearly marked Amendments from 2008 and before. The amended document (1st link), appears to be a somewhat later version of the other document. Are we talking about later in December 1963? The date of the later original document is still 1963, apparently. Section 1-1 of that document, appears to not have been amended and states:
CHAPTER I
The Republic of Kenya
1. Declaration of Republic.
Kenya is a sovereign Republic.

Now the oft-mentioned 12-1964 is when Kenya became ‘a republic within the Commonwealth.’

But this does not eliminate the potential for Kenya to have referred to itself as the ‘Republic of Kenya’ in its documents, etc, as per the earlier linked post.

Forgive me if I’m covering ground again, but I think we need to establish this point well.


951 posted on 08/03/2009 1:04:03 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SeattleBruce
Kenya Independence was declared on 12/12/63. The Republic was official on 12/12/64.

That's what we've been saying all along.

Someone on the TopSecret blog gave proof that there are gov’t documents with both the crest AND ‘Republic of Kenya’ on the documents during this transition period. It makes sense that they’d have both.

It doesn't make sense to me that they would have "republic of kenya" on official document header and seal 10 months before they became a republic, but I'll take a look at your source later. It certainly would dramatically change the likelihood in my mind that the document is valid if this is true. Sounds exciting.

Now Mount, you’ve said the ‘original 1963 [Kenyan] constitution doesn’t have the word Republic in it.’ What are the relative dates of these two Kenyan Constitutional documents? They both are dated in 1963: http://www.constitutionnet.org/files/Kenyan%20constitution%20amended%202008.pdf http://www.constitutionnet.org/files/KEL63-002.pdf

No, the second document is dated 2008. Look at the second line, it says amended 2008.

Just a hint, Kenya didn't have a president in 1963, the queen of england was the head of state. If you doubt what I am saying I can show you an official kenyan governmental website that proves this historical fact. If the constitution you are looking at calls for a president, then you are not looking at a 1963 constitution. Kenya did not have a president until Dec 12th 1964, when they became a republic.


1,088 posted on 08/03/2009 5:26:22 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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