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Municipal scam taken to the extreme. It's all about the money.
1 posted on 08/01/2009 2:52:45 PM PDT by buccaneer81
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guess.we’ve.figured.a.way.out.of.this.financial.mess...


2 posted on 08/01/2009 2:53:47 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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"But opponents still call the cameras a cash-grab by the city..."

That's all it is or ever was.

3 posted on 08/01/2009 2:56:10 PM PDT by evad (Spending money that we don't have on something that won't work for a problem that doesn't exist)
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the cameras were never about money.

Liar liar pants on fire.

5 posted on 08/01/2009 2:56:53 PM PDT by webschooner (First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win -- Mahatma Gandhi)
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Makes me wonder if they're using a short yellow to 'enhance' revenue.

I also wonder if some of these lights might ought to be flashing yellow in the night hours - that used to be standard practice in Ohio years ago for lights at the entrance to shopping centers or sidestreets where traffic was not an issue at night. Such lights would flash yellow on the main road and flash red on the side street or driveway.

6 posted on 08/01/2009 2:57:11 PM PDT by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success.)
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Running traffic lights is illegal, and people have gotten away with it so long that they expect no one to be ticketed—that is until one of their loved ones is killed.


7 posted on 08/01/2009 2:57:37 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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Of course it is all about money. 80% of the fines are for right turns on red without stopping long enough, not for running the light.

It is a Scam to make a lot of money.

And it has been shown to “cause” accidents from people slamming on their brakes to prevent running an “orange” light.

That is right “orange” not red.


8 posted on 08/01/2009 2:58:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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Waugh said that would cut the city's take, but the cameras were never about money.

Then why even have them?

9 posted on 08/01/2009 3:00:03 PM PDT by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success.)
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More than 10,000 violations had been recorded by Heath traffic cameras through Tuesday. At $100 apiece, that would net the city a little more than $830,000 after paying the vendor, Redflex, its share.

Wow!

A politicians dream program.

Get the money and still claim to cut taxes.

When do we repeat the actions related to 1776?

Let me know and I will be there.

10 posted on 08/01/2009 3:01:23 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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“It’s all about the money.”

Yes, it is. States and municipalities are broker than broke. They’ve got to wring every last dime out of us ‘stupid turnips’ while they can...

‘The People’s Republik of Madistan’ who LOVES their bike trails and gay spandex boys, to the exclusion of all other citizens, has been ticketing bicyclists for ANY minor infraction they can find. Truly SHOCKING!

The cops got a federal GRANT to set up ‘stings’ for bikers on our local roads much like they do for drunk drivers. And they’ve been setting up more ‘stings’ than usual for speeders, drunks and those that don’t wear seatbelts.

You’re ratting out your neighbor with your tax dollars, whethere you even realize it or not.

Cha-CHING!

(As a law-abider, I most likely won’t have to pay into the kitty, but I try to break one or two minor laws a day where I can; letting my lawn go until it’s close to ticket-height, putting a pop can into the trash versus the recycle bin, spitting on the sidewalk, dancing in public, etc. Try it. You’ll feel a WHOLE lot better, LOL!)


14 posted on 08/01/2009 3:05:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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Give it a couple of months.

Drivers will modify their behavior and the number of violations will fall to almost nil. Then, the revenue necessary to carry the costs of the program will evaporate.

This is exactly what happened in Dallas after three months of the red-light camera program.

15 posted on 08/01/2009 3:05:47 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Bush was the dumbest sounding smart President, and Obama is the smartest sounding dumb President.)
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Business idea: create an Internet data base that ties in with global positioning systems.

When a driver sees a red light camera, he/she presses a button on a device that sends the GPS location to a centralized data base. Then, whenever a driver who subscribes to the service approaches that location, their GPS device warns them that a red light camera is present.

To avoid abuse, e.g. by municipal officials who see this as a revenue source, registration and possibly a fee should be required to send camera locations to the system. This would prevent municipalities from flagging every location in sight (including the middle of Interstate highways) to interfere with its effective use. Also, perhaps require the same location to be flagged by a given number of separate users.

No one can complain that this would work against traffic safety because the warning would make people more likely to stop when the light turns red.


17 posted on 08/01/2009 3:12:25 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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With this many tickets being recorded, they have to be scamming the system. In San Diego, they found that some of the equipment was not installed properly. Plus, the company operating it had shortened the yellow light time below the required minimums. In California, the state sets the minimum amount of yellow light time required, and that minimum time varies according to the speed limit on the street. The higher the limit, the longer the yellow time that is required.


20 posted on 08/01/2009 3:16:06 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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State and city governments are out of control.


21 posted on 08/01/2009 3:16:17 PM PDT by FTJM
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Why are these people surprised. Thats what they placed them there for. To make money.


26 posted on 08/01/2009 3:19:17 PM PDT by Venturer
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Good revenue producer regardless of what the city claims.

Duncanville, Tx, population of about 38,500 issued some 45,000 citations in 2008 at four red light camera intersections. About 13% were issued to city residents. The fee for the infaction is $75 which is a good cash generator to a small town.

27 posted on 08/01/2009 3:21:12 PM PDT by deport
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Waugh said that would cut the city's take, but the cameras were never about money.

Biggest lie since "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

30 posted on 08/01/2009 3:23:55 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama's medical nationalization bill reads like Atlas Shrugged with doctors instead of railroads.)
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I’m sure the streets are much safer now. The city officials must be very proud of themselves. Another successful fleecing of the people they work for.


33 posted on 08/01/2009 3:27:26 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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“Waugh said that would cut the city’s take, but the cameras were never about money.”

How can you tell when a politician is lying?


35 posted on 08/01/2009 3:31:29 PM PDT by ColdWater
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With 10,000 opportunities here for civil disobedience, they should refuse to pay the tickets. Then demand the cameras be taken down and begin a movement to fire all those city government a-holes.


36 posted on 08/01/2009 3:36:46 PM PDT by upsdriver
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I don’t like the idea of Big Brother cameras on every street corner but I do wish that law enforcement would do something to curb red light runners where I live.

It has gotten way out of hand and is getting worse every day.

Everyone in my family has had multiple close calls and my wife almost got broadsided last week by a driver running a solid red at about 50 MPH.
The only thing that saved her is the fact we are all gun shy at intersections and drive defensively, watching both opposing lanes as we enter an intersection. She caught a glimpse of the car flying into the cross street just in time to hit the gas and turn out of his path.


37 posted on 08/01/2009 3:38:23 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Win the War On Poverty - Stop bringing in foreign reinforcements for the other side.)
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