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The Irony of His Birth
Vanity ^ | August 1, 2009 | Nathan Bedford

Posted on 08/01/2009 4:15:36 AM PDT by nathanbedford

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BTTT


21 posted on 08/01/2009 5:29:22 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: nathanbedford
I do not care where he was born... release all of his records and rescind his executive order sealing his past away from Americans. There is far more to this LFBC than actual place of birth... and that piece of paper that will NEVER see the light of day has the beginning of the end of hussama printed on it... What it is I do not know. It is obvious hussama knows very well!

LLS

22 posted on 08/01/2009 5:30:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: don-o

Thanks for the ping.


23 posted on 08/01/2009 5:31:30 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the naysayers. Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: nathanbedford

Well written. Thank you for taking the time put all that together, and share it with us.


24 posted on 08/01/2009 5:37:01 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the naysayers. Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: nathanbedford

The birth certificate issue is silly if he was, as assumed by most, born in Hawaii. But he may not be able to access his original BC because it is sealed and only accessible per court order due to a later adoption BC.

Maya Soetoro Ng, Barack Obama’s half-sister, stated in an interview that her entire family IS Muslim and that her father adopted Barack before the family moved to Indonesia. That seems pretty clear, as especially a recent bit of info came my way that Stanley Ann D. Soetoro naturalized as an Indonesian citizen and converted to Islam. This is hardly the kind of family background a candidate for President wants made public during an election.

However some things about this issue perhaps aren’t as innocent as they should be, and an Obama ‘disciple’ traveled to Indonesia and struck a faustian deal with the Indonesian government in exchange for documents and photographs of Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro and his family.

U.S.Congressman Eni Faleomavaega traveled to Jakarta, Indonesia, on July 3, 2007¹ , for a private meeting with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Barnabas Suebu, the governor of the Indonesian Province of Papua. The Congressman was seeking their assistance in supporting Barack Obama’s presidential campaign as well as collecting documents, records, and photographs of Barack Obama and visiting the schools he attended as a child.

“Officials” who accompanied Faleomamaega offered cash, and lots of it, for documents and photographs of the young Obama, then known as Barry Soetoro, and those of his family. The Congressman acquired the cooperation of the Indonesian government by promising a “change” in the way the U.S. would deal with the Indonesian government’s persecution of West Papua’s Christian population² once Barack Obama was President.

What was so important about those photographs and documents that they were worth the suffering of West Papuans? This information comes from ‘Obama: Throwing Papua Under The Bus’, by An American Expat in Southeast Asia - Larry Martin http://www.laotze.blogspot.com/

I suspect that the adoption BC is the document that Obama wants to hide. It gives his legal name, Barry Soetoro, and that his parents are Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann D. Soetoro. It indicates that Indonesia is important in the lives and history of Obama’s immediate family and he doesn’t want any of it made public.

As for Obama’s ‘Muslim faith’, of that I have no doubt. His book, ‘The Audacity of Hope’, has a title in Indonesian no Christian would ever consider - ‘Jihad: From Jakarta To The White House’.


25 posted on 08/01/2009 5:39:16 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Eye of Unk

>The kicker would be that Obama signed documents saying that he was eligible.
>
>I guess that is democratic honesty.

It would be perjury and fraud if it is found that he was ineligible... well for anyone like you or me.

I guess that is “Oligarchical justice”.


26 posted on 08/01/2009 5:40:10 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Eye of Unk
"The kicker would be that Obama signed documents saying that he was eligible."

The "signed documents" issue is really what Obama/Barry is hiding. If ALL signed documents - either directly by - or on behalf of Obama are brought to light, then I think we shall see a pattern of deception, fraud and outright illegality that would bring into focus how he 'gamed' the system throught his life.

Remember with the Feds it not the act but lying about the act (especially if the act has a signed paper trail) that gets you in hot water....

27 posted on 08/01/2009 5:41:14 AM PDT by databoss (Keep The Change....)
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To: databoss

through out (sic)


28 posted on 08/01/2009 5:43:37 AM PDT by databoss (Keep The Change....)
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To: nathanbedford
The summons to produce a birth certificate in accordance with the constitutional mandate is but a metaphor for the call to govern in accordance with the Constitution.

In a nutshell!

Now, counting down to the appearance on this thread of the cafeteria Constitutionalists who urge us to "move one" because birthers are damaging conservatism...
29 posted on 08/01/2009 5:44:26 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: SE Mom

Thanks. This really is an excellent piece of work.


30 posted on 08/01/2009 5:47:46 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: BuffaloJack
... and one other ... Why does Obama need 39 Social Security Numbers?

Please explain.

31 posted on 08/01/2009 5:47:53 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: nathanbedford
Well done!

32 posted on 08/01/2009 5:49:02 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: nathanbedford

I have a dream:
Our gal, Sarah is debating the “One” on the eve of the 2012 election and the COB issue pops up.
She looks over to Zero and says, “I’ll show you mine if you’ll show me yours.” Then gives us a big wink...

Please don’t wake me up; reality stinks.


33 posted on 08/01/2009 5:50:19 AM PDT by WeldonsRight (Right and (apparently) wrong at the same time)
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To: nathanbedford

Thank you for that post.


34 posted on 08/01/2009 5:54:01 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: don-o

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 08/01/2009 5:57:04 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: nathanbedford
Old School "Vanity" - Thank you, NB. I agree completely the the BC issue needs expansion far beyond demand for a single document. I want to see it all. Who is this guy? Where did he come from? Who sent him and what is his true and legal name.

I work as a department manager for a Fortune 500 manufacturing company. If Obama was not the president, he would not be allowed to visit the company because of federal export compliance laws. Every visitor that wishes access to any of the company's factories or offices must pass OCR screening. A thorough background check - impossible with Obama. As well, he would never be hired at this company because his past is apparently completely hidden. And yet this man has absolute control over US armed forces and the nuclear arsenal. Absolutely unconscionable

36 posted on 08/01/2009 6:00:44 AM PDT by atc23
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To: nathanbedford
Well written and thoughtful post, Nathan.

I am personally convinced that the underlying birth certificate will show a birth in Hawaii.

I agree that it will likely show a Hawaiian birth. I am not so sure that it is accurate or truthful, though. The sticking point I have is the address listed in the birth announcement for Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama in the two Hawaiian papers at the time. (LOL, that address is my "Confderate Money".) This information was taken from Vital Statistics information (Certificate of Live Birth). The address listed does not correspond to any addresses of any of the parties (Obama's father, mother, or grandparents). Instead, it belonged to a couple who was not giving birth to any children at that time.

Both papers printed up the wrong address, making it unlikely it was a mistake, and making it likely that this incorrect address was indeed listed on the original birth certificate. Why? It could be as simple as a mother trying to confer legitimacy to her son by showing an address for a married couple. It could be something totally different. The other information listed on an original BC would further tell the story of what transpired at the time. Was he actually born in a hospital? This would make it easier to believe a Hawaiian birth since it would be more difficult to falsify. Was it a birth other than in a formal setting (i.e. home birth) which sould be easier to provide falsified information about.

I have never seriously entertatained a Kenyan birth. It doesn't make a lot of sense. But assuming the birth announcements are real, there is innacurate information on that original BC. What else might be innacurte or fraudulent?

The summons to produce a birth certificate in accordance with the constitutional mandate is but a metaphor for the call to govern in accordance with the Constitution.

Well said! Every American who loves this country can agree with that.
37 posted on 08/01/2009 6:04:41 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: nathanbedford

Your position is generally my position.


38 posted on 08/01/2009 6:10:53 AM PDT by qwertypie
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To: nathanbedford
Once again your elegance with the word and deep penetration of the issue are demonstrated. COngratulations. Wholeheartedly concur and have been trying to convey the smae message in recent days. Of course I am not nearly as gifted as you are. Again, thanks and congrats.

Μολὼν λάβε


39 posted on 08/01/2009 6:11:44 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: nathanbedford

Bump great post.


40 posted on 08/01/2009 6:13:51 AM PDT by mc5cents
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