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Transgender student turned away from prom (Just a poor boy in a prom dress...so sad)
http://www.examiner.com ^ | July 30, 7:34 AM | Matt Kailey

Posted on 07/30/2009 7:32:23 PM PDT by Maelstorm

Jeremy was refused entry to his high school prom when he arrived in a gown and makeup instead of a tuxedo.

KUAM, Guam’s news network, reports that officials at George Washington High School in Guam refunded the money Jeremy spent for a prom ticket, but are unsympathetic about the $400 he spent on clothing and other items, and will not issue him the apology that he wants for being unable to attend the prom.

Jeremy claims that he was discriminated against when he was denied entry.

“I said, ‘Where does it state in this rule in this paper that there’s no cross-dressing, no individualism and no opposite genders? It doesn't say anything.’ So I have a case right here. And that’s wrong,” he said, as quoted by KUAM.

In an earlier report, Jeremy claims that girls were being allowed into the prom in tuxes, and that he was told that those girls were wearing "female tuxes."

George Washington High School has no policy regarding transgender students (Jeremy has also identified himself as gay), and the principal, Begona Flores, says that she will follow such a policy if it is drafted, but has no intention of initiating a policy because it goes against her beliefs.

Jeremy has apparently dressed in male clothing and expressed his gender as male in school, so school personnel were not unreasonably surprised when he arrived at the prom in a gown.

However, the fact that no policy was in place suggests that Jeremy should have been allowed to attend, and a reasonable policy would accommodate trans students as well as lesbian, gay, and bisexual students.

Dress codes can be a major problem for trans students and for adult trans people in the workplace. While, ideally, a dress code for school or work should not be gender specific, we have not yet reached that place as a society.

But young people are transgressing those gender norms that society has established, and by pushing that envelope, they will eventually cause those necessary changes to be made.

In the meantime, many LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) youth organizations have established their own proms, to allow LGBT youth to bring the date of their choice, to wear the clothing of their choice, and to experience a prom that they can enjoy on their own terms, rather than one that has http://www.examiner.com/x-12237-Transgender-Issues-Examiner~y2009m7d30-Transgender-student-turned-away-from-promestablished around heterosexual partnerships and specific gender norms.

These types of events for youth are important in the development of positive self-esteem and self-worth, internal characteristics that all youth should be equally entitled to possess.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; genderiddisorder; homosexualagenda; prom; sourcetitlenoturl; trans
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To: Maelstorm

My most vivid memory of a prom night was the blue lights and road block from a flipped convertible a bunch of prom goers were riding in on their way to an after party. Killed one of the debutantes and generally ruined things for the other passengers.


61 posted on 07/30/2009 8:57:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: Maelstorm

I am so sick of the misuse of vocabulary. AT one time, a homosexual like this brat would have simply been called a freakshow or a transvestite (which would have completely described the truth).

Transgender is nothing but an attempt to use vocabulary that makes this kid’s decision to be a freakshow homosexual transvestite sound like a medical condition.


62 posted on 07/30/2009 9:03:01 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Rebelbase

Sorry to hear that. That is a horrible memory. I ended up going twice. Once to my own and once with a girl in the class following mine. It really wasn’t a big deal and I most certainly would not have cried if I hadn’t went. I saw girls who went alone.


63 posted on 07/30/2009 9:04:18 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: Burkean

Girls didn’t wear pants in the 50s even when they came out to observe street racing, they wore dresses.

Pants weren’t even allowed by girls in school under any condition.

I can’t speak for the 60s since I was too busy running a business to give a damn.

From your post i’m old enough to be your father since I was married in the 50s.


64 posted on 07/30/2009 9:05:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Starwolf

I don’t have any problem with Kilts, they are accepted male dress. Evening gowns aren’t.


65 posted on 07/30/2009 9:06:25 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: Maelstorm
Well, look at it this way.

This is a guy that pretends to be a woman devoid of boobs and butt, so he can claim to replicate the lean, boyish figure of a dyke, as every Tom, Dick, and Harry can easily identify.  He's so warped (perhaps driven insane by his homosexual urges) that he feels excited that a “woman's” body looks pretty much like a skinny young male's body, lol.

Why would a real man want to touch the body of another man?  Wouldn't they like to touch the feminine form - the hills and valleys so different than their own bodies?

That's a real man's instinct, I think.  Males who are less than that will probably be driven by stranger urges.

66 posted on 07/30/2009 9:18:14 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: dalereed

That age comparison sounds right.

I have a photo of my mother in the early fifties, wearing jeans, with a bonnet on her head and a hoe in her hand, chopping weeds out of rows of cotton. I’m pretty sure that is the only situation in which she would have worn pants until the early seventies.


67 posted on 07/30/2009 9:22:54 PM PDT by Burkean
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To: Maelstorm
so is a gal tux a girl thing? Did the girls wearing the tuxs have other gals as their dates?
68 posted on 07/30/2009 9:26:18 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Warning: Some words may be misspelled/ You will get over it / Klingon is my 1st language)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I think people especially men as has been observed not only by the fact that criminal and deviant sexual behavior is by far a category dominated by males are potentially venerable to such behavior. Males who have been abused or do not have a father figure or have a very negative view of men are particularly venerable.

I think it is natural for men to desire women, even many homosexual men desire women-like features in their choice of partners and the reverse can be said of some lesbians. It is always interesting how black and white those who celebrate sexual diversity are on this as if human sexuality can not be warped and fantasies not be shaped when they are some of the key architects of such warping. They are very intolerant of anyone who does what is most advantageous for human organism and their heritability and length of lifespan.

As for women I like a wide variety when considering it from a purely observational perspective. I do think the androgynous look is a reflection of a warped society not that naturally thin, small breasted woman are inferior. I do prefer the fairer and more ample sex.


69 posted on 07/30/2009 9:47:36 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: Morgana

Thanks for the post Morgana. Looking at those more innocent times makes me feel happier. Luckily I’m able to bring a bit of normalcy to the lives of my children. It is not all lost. They want to make us think we are outnumbered but I think a lot of people would like a sense of normalcy again. Not that such a time was perfect and not flawed but it was at least a time when the shameful had some shame and good upstanding folks in the community were held in high regard and people looked down on those things that were low. They didn’t go on making excuses for the dysfunctional among them.


70 posted on 07/30/2009 9:55:16 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: Burkean

And what have we for it? Nothing of value. Isn’t it strange to realize that are one time people were really disgusted by gross things and didn’t apologize for the natural reactions?


71 posted on 07/30/2009 9:59:01 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: Maelstorm
Good post.

I do prefer the fairer and more ample sex.

Indeed. That's my idea of what real man looks for.

Thanks for the interesting post. I think the same can be said about men's looks. I prefer men that look manly, rather than the boyish, ambiguous look that Hollywood usually promotes.

I'm leaving for Rome tomorrow morning so I need to finish packing. Nighty night.

72 posted on 07/30/2009 10:01:06 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I hope you have a good trip. I’ve got a long drive tomorrow and I should have been in bed hours ago. Thanks for the interesting response.


73 posted on 07/30/2009 11:06:40 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: Maelstorm
Let’s say he had came in full leather get up. There is no need to blur the issue. He came dressed as a girl and knew what the reaction would be. He came dressed inappropriately and he was denied access. It is refreshing that he was denied it is the appropriate response of rational school officials. Boys shouldn’t have to be told that they can not come to proms as if the are girls.

Agreed; but it's still discrimination. Not all discrimination is bad, even though we've been conditioned to think it is.

74 posted on 07/30/2009 11:40:22 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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To: bareford101

Exactly.


75 posted on 07/31/2009 7:51:03 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Maelstorm

“But Jeremy, those girls look hot in tuxes.”


76 posted on 07/31/2009 7:52:51 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Maelstorm

77 posted on 07/31/2009 7:57:18 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Impeach the sumbeech)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Is “Guamanians” the preferred nomenclature? I thought it was Guammy Bears.


78 posted on 07/31/2009 8:02:42 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: constitutiongirl

Where does your neighbor get off telling you, a man, what defines a man? Would she do this for a person that lived as “Black”?


79 posted on 08/03/2009 10:18:02 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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