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To: Islam=Murder

Hitler WISHES he had that sort of control over the USA....

Hitler hasnt wished anything in 64 years.

Will someone explain to me how Obamas birth announcement was printed in the Honolulu newspaper at the time of his birth 40+ years ago if he was born elsewhere? And who was the person who knew he would need would need a fake birth notice 40+ years in the future in order to illegally qualify for the Presidency of the USA. I am just seeking a reasonable, rational answer to that huge hole in the conspiracy theory. So, dont attack me, just explain it to me.


151 posted on 07/30/2009 2:37:00 AM PDT by mono
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To: mono

More to the point, I think, is the question: what would Obama’s mother/whoever have had to gain from lying about the place of his birth? Why go through all the trouble?

The theorists have to present some reasonable scenario where the incentive is so strong for Obama’s mother to convince others, at that time, that he was born in Hawaii, that she’d go about somehow faking a birth announcement.


152 posted on 07/30/2009 2:51:29 AM PDT by MitchellC
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To: mono
A valid question. Personally I think he is likely to have been born in Hawaii, but that is still not certain. Some of the timelines and relationships are squirly.

In any case, at this point the discussion has morphed. There are various other reasons why barry may not be a NBC. From what I have seen the one that makes the most sense is that he is hiding an amended BC, as well as the original, that would show he lost US citizenship through adoption.

154 posted on 07/30/2009 3:08:04 AM PDT by 70times7 (What is Obama's hurry? Is he anxious to get to his cigarette? America wants some foreplay first.)
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To: mono

I ask you — what kind of clowns would vet a presidential candidate without seeing his birth certificate? What kind of genius would expect there to be zero fallout from such a mess?


157 posted on 07/30/2009 4:33:57 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Ayers unimportant? What about Robert KKK Byrd or FALN pardons? DNC -- the terrorism party.)
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To: mono; MitchellC
The birth announcement was my big hang-up as well. I've seen two possible explanations. 1) The health department received the birth information and automatically sent it to the newspapers. 2) Someone tampered with the microfisch, removing the announcement of a set of twins and inserting Obama.

For me, the issue has very little to do with his birth. I'm about 99% certain that he was born in Hawaii, but I don't think that this is the point. If he traveled abroad on a Indonesian passport, if he applied for scholarships as a foreign student, if he were legally adopted by his step-father, he may be a *naturalized* citizen, but not considered natural-born.

I think that we're at the point where we know that we're on to *something* that Obama wants to keep hidden, but we don't know for sure what it is. That's why this thing won't go away. The more the administration keeps silent, the more I want to see his "papers". Something is not adding up about this guy's past, but we don't know what yet. I would think that it might not have anything to do with his birth, but if that's the case, why won't he just release the long-form BC and be done with it? He's hiding something and he's willing to pay a million dollars to keep it secret.

It could be something as simple as fraud. Let's say he was born in Hawaii and is a US citizen. No problem. Let's say that he used his Indonesian paperwork to say that he was an Indonesian citizen to get scholarships for college. Let's say that he kept up the "I'm an Indonesian" thing for the entire 8 years, then dropped it when he graduated and he wanted to get into politics.

Now I don't know if *any* of that would be enough to get him impeached, but it would've been a bomb-shell scandal before the election. It would be a bomb-shell if he wanted to run for a second term.

Purely speculation, but it explains why he's so interested in being less than transparent.

Something is up and we have to keep the pressure on.

179 posted on 07/30/2009 10:18:20 AM PDT by Marie (Alan Keyes for President!)
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